tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post1118157854814018753..comments2024-01-19T16:08:44.813+05:30Comments on SATYAM BRUYAT - Justice Katju : "WHAT IS URDU"Justice Markandey Katjuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00863856244827322851noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-39633569308116601282015-08-13T12:57:01.436+05:302015-08-13T12:57:01.436+05:30during census when i told my mother tongue is urdu...during census when i told my mother tongue is urdu the official cleverly marked it hindi nd hid it bt father was observnt enough ,he gave a good scolding to the person.. i came to know later dis is their way to eliminate urdu frm countryAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03483844787826611591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-1116023667500016992015-08-13T12:56:57.824+05:302015-08-13T12:56:57.824+05:30during census when i told my mother tongue is urdu...during census when i told my mother tongue is urdu the official cleverly marked it hindi nd hid it bt father was observnt enough ,he gave a good scolding to the person.. i came to know later dis is their way to eliminate urdu frm countryAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03483844787826611591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-60459388245842735672015-08-13T12:54:35.185+05:302015-08-13T12:54:35.185+05:30during census when i told my mother tongue is urdu...during census when i told my mother tongue is urdu the official cleverly marked it hindi nd hid it bt father was observnt enough ,he gave a good scolding to the person.. i came to know later dis is their way to eliminate urdu frm countryAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03483844787826611591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-68153387139966164762015-08-07T09:35:04.919+05:302015-08-07T09:35:04.919+05:30Brothers hate Mongers are at both sides and idiots...Brothers hate Mongers are at both sides and idiots as well, the level of idiocacy is greater in pakistan than India, atleast Indians are not denying their history. Pakistani people are not even ready to accept their past and even hate their forefathers.Krishan Rathihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790619751325414730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-65677903467818761292015-08-06T23:54:51.064+05:302015-08-06T23:54:51.064+05:30But that is the language of Pakistan period lol ! ... But that is the language of Pakistan period lol ! Hate mongers did such a good job that no one reasons or apply logic. They are disowning a treasure which originated, took its form in this location. Hate just got better of us and we have abandoned whats rightfully ours. <br /><br />Reminds me of "Gadhey ko Zafran ki kya qadr" loosely Translated as"What would donkey know the value of saffron"<br /><br />You still choose to be blind. <br />You still choose to ignore everything while judging things. <br /> You have eyes to see and brain to think <br />so why don't you apply your mind. <br /> Truth is out there just waiting for you to find. <br />Herd's mentality is easy but why be of that kind ?<br /><br />Let not the hate forsake you love. Its not exaggeration but love is urdu and sweet is urdu.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09205255212485472379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-28234889778848254592014-07-21T14:40:06.730+05:302014-07-21T14:40:06.730+05:30Though my father tried his best to teach us Urdu, ...Though my father tried his best to teach us Urdu, we foiled all his attempts at that time. I am now learning Urdu from rekhta.org and "google translate". <br />Love you Urdu. <br />Rekhta.org is a labor of love, and is in three scripts, Devnaagari, Persian, and Roman. Have a look.<br /><br />Language is not a monopoly of any set of people. Language has no religious color, you mean English is a Christian language?<br /><br />The word "Hindu" is of Persian language :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-34777487621800789052014-07-21T14:32:21.285+05:302014-07-21T14:32:21.285+05:30Easy to write and less stringent rules. No half al...Easy to write and less stringent rules. No half alphebets. No aa ii oo....more or less. Quick to grasp and smooth flow, less convolutions.<br /><br />What more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-64164164335388722392013-07-11T16:06:49.325+05:302013-07-11T16:06:49.325+05:30Very nice article Sir. Urdu is indeed the sweetest...Very nice article Sir. Urdu is indeed the sweetest language.<br />Thank you Mr. Katju for providing such succint history of Urdu language and its importance in the Indian culture. Many things you mentioned were unkown to me and I am grateful for the information.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815525419088518770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-50484762718674380942013-05-21T01:03:39.737+05:302013-05-21T01:03:39.737+05:30Yeah, smoothest it seems.!! :D :PYeah, smoothest it seems.!! :D :PAyyappanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03303674609374590723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-50586921390896756472013-04-26T19:48:32.752+05:302013-04-26T19:48:32.752+05:30 Katju Sir,
Thank you so much for all the learning... Katju Sir,<br />Thank you so much for all the learning and literary enlightenment. My love for Urdu only doubles with all the historical facts mentioned. Would love to read from you about Hindi too. <br /><br />regards<br />ShravanShravans Versionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04316931601891079809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-28609106003172300532013-04-07T11:42:21.649+05:302013-04-07T11:42:21.649+05:30plz be free from ur biased views...
HALWA is also...plz be free from ur biased views...<br />HALWA is also a gift of our hindavi language, it's not a sanskrit word.<br />Even u'll not find the word HINDU, HINDI or HINDUSTAN in any our SHASTRA, PURAAN OR GEETA.<br />These words are given us only by the parsian invaders.<br /><br />Ravinder Burarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015012209356917781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-1049404534095202712013-04-06T20:14:17.412+05:302013-04-06T20:14:17.412+05:30best history lesson... :) best history lesson... :) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04590844855337676168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-33174073299167020732013-04-06T20:13:25.026+05:302013-04-06T20:13:25.026+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04590844855337676168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-41869890006150890182013-04-06T16:28:02.765+05:302013-04-06T16:28:02.765+05:30A beautiful effort on your part and great writing....A beautiful effort on your part and great writing. Beautiful. Ab baat jab urdu ki chali hai toh zikr-e-Chakbast bhi hona chahiye...<br /><br />I quote my per-nanaji here as he was an urdu poet...<br /><br />"Zarra Zarra hai mere Kashmir ka mehmaan nawaaz,<br />raah mein pathar ke tukdon ne diya peene ko pani mujhe."<br /><br />Chakbast on Kashmir<br /><br />Further he said...<br /><br />"Bekaar ta-al-li se hai nafrat mujhko<br />lun daad-e-sukhan nahin yeh aadat mujhko,<br />Kis waaste justju karun shohrat ki<br />Ek din khud dhundh legi shohrat mujhko."<br /><br />Chakbast.<br /><br />Looking forward to reading more.<br />regards <br />Geetanjali Kaul.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849198315648443572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-91301392679256814552012-12-20T15:06:29.514+05:302012-12-20T15:06:29.514+05:30urdu is not language, it means hoardes or orde of ...urdu is not language, it means hoardes or orde of turkish people who came here to fight wars, in mediaval world. Their spoken language came to be known as urdu. They used to speak chagtai khanate language. And also, turks were more of warrior people, not like arabs. Khan was a title of warrior people which was pre-islamic. We actually lost empire in central asia. peterparkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-13770500551277725762012-12-19T11:36:35.508+05:302012-12-19T11:36:35.508+05:30It seems you are not a well read person.It seems you are not a well read person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-64208797030717876432012-12-19T11:34:40.518+05:302012-12-19T11:34:40.518+05:30We have an old tendency of admiring foreign and ot...We have an old tendency of admiring foreign and other's things, goods, language, culture, etc. otherwise which language can match Sanskrit and Hindi. One intellectual has defined this tendency very rightly and beautifully - "We Indian would ignore and reject our HALWA if we get GOBAR from foreign country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-54774595266799496102012-11-29T22:47:20.793+05:302012-11-29T22:47:20.793+05:30Very nice article Sir. Urdu is indeed the sweetest...Very nice article Sir. Urdu is indeed the sweetest language.Mi Shakeelhttp://www.iwanawrite.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-54440823666438767922012-11-21T00:27:00.706+05:302012-11-21T00:27:00.706+05:30I have my self made theory here as answer. One day...I have my self made theory here as answer. One day I too was pondering on the same question that you have stopped at.<br />The only logical conclusion I could made is as follows-<br />Rulers from the North-West invaded India. This invasion method to gain control over a land was the way it was done at that time. So, after invading and becoming ruler of a part of the land, the ruling class needs to blend and communicate with the inhabitants....right? The problem they would have at that time was that the rulers knew one language (Persian) and the inhabitants knew another (sanskrit/hindi). So to bridge this communication gap the ruling class would have come up with Urdu....which takes common works like verb, conjugation from hindi but adjective, nouns and expressive word from persian.... :)<br />With this theory, the choice of script is very logical....since urdu was made by native persian speakers they chose the script they already knew...their interest was only in bridging the communication gap....if urdu would have been invented by local inhabitant then they would have naturally chosen devanagiri script (the way hindi evolved from sanskrit).....<br />I could only speculate this theory as I cannot go back in time and prove it....I just tried to put a common sense thinking.... :)OrdinaryHumannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-59423013298460508422012-11-19T14:20:05.106+05:302012-11-19T14:20:05.106+05:30Sir,
Question on the script used for Urdu.. inspi...Sir,<br /><br />Question on the script used for Urdu.. inspite of Urdu being persianised khadiboli why is the script not devanagiri and more like persian?<br /><br />ShivaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-57180034250000270392012-11-19T14:07:55.920+05:302012-11-19T14:07:55.920+05:30Sir,
I am a South Indian Tamil Brahmin born and r...Sir,<br /><br />I am a South Indian Tamil Brahmin born and raised in karnataka. My Grandparents are tamilians from Bihar and yet i have a very strong interest in urdu ghazals. I have never been able to understand why i connected more to this language inspite of studying Sanskrit and Hindi in School. Your essay is an Eye Opener. Thank you very much. This has helped me understand myself..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-75503607931699414032012-08-20T12:57:48.751+05:302012-08-20T12:57:48.751+05:30Sir,
This is a very timely call for revival of a ...Sir,<br /><br />This is a very timely call for revival of a language that is pride of India. i visited MP and Chattisgarh recently and was shocked to hear sanskritised hindi. Inspite of being a sanskrit student, i found it difficult to follow that language.<br />Your suggestion of bilingual books is very sensible indeed.<br />Regards and Best Wishes,<br />Dr. Bhooshan Shukla<br />Bhooshanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014120959911995746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-48504201166817580122012-07-17T16:51:55.518+05:302012-07-17T16:51:55.518+05:30Nice and informative..Nice and informative..PANKAJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02118402713022756089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-87635861790136675622012-07-17T14:53:10.877+05:302012-07-17T14:53:10.877+05:30Thanks Mr Katju, indeed one of the smoothest artic...Thanks Mr Katju, indeed one of the smoothest article I have ever read.Abhayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852046471923422500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1720071062570496465.post-30208931010244526942012-03-06T05:08:50.233+05:302012-03-06T05:08:50.233+05:30Thank you Mr. Katju for providing such succint his...Thank you Mr. Katju for providing such succint history of Urdu language and its importance in the Indian culture. Many things you mentioned were unkown to me and I am grateful for the information.<br /><br />I have a little story to tell you about the Sanskritization of Hindi. Many years ago, when I was a student in India, I was visiting Delhi and riding a bus. I noticed a sign in Hindi, which said "Sankat Nikas" and also "Emergency Exit" in English, so I knew what it meant. I was curious if others knew what it meant. I asked my the person next to me if he could read what it said, and he said correctly, "Sankat Nikas". He did not know any English, so I asked him what it meant? He said, "I don't know!". I was shocked that our government had adopted a policy of using words that people did not understand and that would endanger their life - if "sankat" came, there would be no "nikas" for them. <br /><br />Unfortunately, as you point out, things have become worse since, and I am glad there are enlightened people in India like you who have the vision to correct the hostorical record.<br /><br />With very best regards,<br />Khursheed Ahmed<br />(Living in Canada, but grew up in India)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com