I have banned several persons who made impertinent or abusive comments on my previous post. I am quite a democratic person, and I do not mind people disagreeing with me, but I will not accept impertinence or abuse. And why should I ?
All I had said was that no atrocity or oppression should be committed on any one, whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian, or of any community. Whenever any atrocity was done on Muslims, I was perhaps the first person in the country to condemn it, and my track record can be seen in this connection. But I had also noticed that very few Muslims condemned atrocities on Hindus, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias, etc in Pakistan, Kashmir or Bangladesh. To that I strongly objected.
I remember when I was in Allahabad, I told a Muslim friend that I have always stood by Muslims whenever there was any atrocity on them, so why are Muslims not speaking out against the horrible atrocities on Kashmiri Pandits in Kashmir ? He asked what could he do ? I replied he can write a letter to a local newspaper against it, which I would get published, but he did nothing.
I know about the persecution of Kashmiri Pandits because I am myself a Kashmiri Pandit, and my wife and her relatives are from there. Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits were selectively killed. Kashmiri Pandits were only 3% of the population of Kashmir, and were not doing any harm to any one. But it often happened that if in a village of Kashmir there were , say, 1000 people, of which only 20 or so were Pandits, a group of persons with fire arms would come and selectively kill these 20 Pandits. This happened on many an occasion. One of my wife's cousins, who is a doctor in Delhi, told me that when she was studying in a Medical College in Kashmir, a group of people came to her home and shouted that the males in her family should get out of Kashmir, leaving the females behind. There were many such other stories of horror against Pandits of Kashmir, due to which they had to leave their homes and hurriedly leave Kashmir. Many of such Pandits and their families are still living in camps in Jammu, Delhi, etc in horrible conditions. Instead of condemning such atrocities many Kashmiri Muslims blamed Jagmohan for the mass migration of Pandits from Kashmir, which was a total lie. They should have blamed themselves for failing to protect the tiny Kashmiri Pandit community.
No one wants to leave his home, where his family has lived for generations, and this itself proves what horrible things were done to Kashmiri Pandits, but because it is a tiny community with no vote bank, nobody bothered. Hardly any Muslim raised his voice against these atrocities, or on atrocities on non Muslims, Ahmadis etc in Pakistan. Hindu girls were forcibly abducted and converted to islam, Hindus were often kidnapped and held to ransom. Blasphemy laws were applied against Christians, who were sometimes killed, and few lawyers dared to take up their case, as those who did were often killed. Hardly any Muslim in India raised his voice against these atrocities, but when people in Gaza were attacked they raised a big hue and cry.
I am not saying one should not raise his voice against atrocities on people of Gaza. What I pointed out was that Kashmir and Pakistan are nearer to India. Surely Muslims in India should have also protested against atrocities on non Muslims and Ahmadis in Pakistan and Kashmir. I saw photographs in the newspapers of demonstrations by Muslims in many cities in India against atrocities in Gaza, but where were the demonstrations by Muslims against atrocities on non Muslims and Ahmadis in Pakistan and Kashmir ?
As I said, secularism cannot be a one way traffic. All atrocities on everyone should be condemned.
However, I am prepared to unban those I banned provided they apologize unconditionally. They can send a message on my facebook page, or send an apology through some other computer. By nature I am quite a forgiving person
All I had said was that no atrocity or oppression should be committed on any one, whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian, or of any community. Whenever any atrocity was done on Muslims, I was perhaps the first person in the country to condemn it, and my track record can be seen in this connection. But I had also noticed that very few Muslims condemned atrocities on Hindus, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias, etc in Pakistan, Kashmir or Bangladesh. To that I strongly objected.
I remember when I was in Allahabad, I told a Muslim friend that I have always stood by Muslims whenever there was any atrocity on them, so why are Muslims not speaking out against the horrible atrocities on Kashmiri Pandits in Kashmir ? He asked what could he do ? I replied he can write a letter to a local newspaper against it, which I would get published, but he did nothing.
I know about the persecution of Kashmiri Pandits because I am myself a Kashmiri Pandit, and my wife and her relatives are from there. Hundreds of Kashmiri Pandits were selectively killed. Kashmiri Pandits were only 3% of the population of Kashmir, and were not doing any harm to any one. But it often happened that if in a village of Kashmir there were , say, 1000 people, of which only 20 or so were Pandits, a group of persons with fire arms would come and selectively kill these 20 Pandits. This happened on many an occasion. One of my wife's cousins, who is a doctor in Delhi, told me that when she was studying in a Medical College in Kashmir, a group of people came to her home and shouted that the males in her family should get out of Kashmir, leaving the females behind. There were many such other stories of horror against Pandits of Kashmir, due to which they had to leave their homes and hurriedly leave Kashmir. Many of such Pandits and their families are still living in camps in Jammu, Delhi, etc in horrible conditions. Instead of condemning such atrocities many Kashmiri Muslims blamed Jagmohan for the mass migration of Pandits from Kashmir, which was a total lie. They should have blamed themselves for failing to protect the tiny Kashmiri Pandit community.
No one wants to leave his home, where his family has lived for generations, and this itself proves what horrible things were done to Kashmiri Pandits, but because it is a tiny community with no vote bank, nobody bothered. Hardly any Muslim raised his voice against these atrocities, or on atrocities on non Muslims, Ahmadis etc in Pakistan. Hindu girls were forcibly abducted and converted to islam, Hindus were often kidnapped and held to ransom. Blasphemy laws were applied against Christians, who were sometimes killed, and few lawyers dared to take up their case, as those who did were often killed. Hardly any Muslim in India raised his voice against these atrocities, but when people in Gaza were attacked they raised a big hue and cry.
I am not saying one should not raise his voice against atrocities on people of Gaza. What I pointed out was that Kashmir and Pakistan are nearer to India. Surely Muslims in India should have also protested against atrocities on non Muslims and Ahmadis in Pakistan and Kashmir. I saw photographs in the newspapers of demonstrations by Muslims in many cities in India against atrocities in Gaza, but where were the demonstrations by Muslims against atrocities on non Muslims and Ahmadis in Pakistan and Kashmir ?
As I said, secularism cannot be a one way traffic. All atrocities on everyone should be condemned.
However, I am prepared to unban those I banned provided they apologize unconditionally. They can send a message on my facebook page, or send an apology through some other computer. By nature I am quite a forgiving person
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ReplyDeleteYes, I agree to this. But how long we continue to say this ? Its hi time now we start to raise our voice for our brothers in Kashmir or elsewhere. Does anybody noticed firm action being taken for last 20 years about this issue ? No. Why ? because there is not enough voice raised. There should be the strength like "Lokpal Movement" in this - then only Govt. will act. There is no point in blaming others for being selective in acting on issues worldwide. This shows the world that we are not united - and they are !
DeleteI did not meat what you are giving the interpretation to it. What i meant was that in a democratic society where freedom of expression is a guaranteed right; every person has the freedom to express his/her opinion. You may agree or you may disagree. But you can (ought) not to force your views upon him, in spite of the fact that you feel that you are correct. Because you view is not the view of the nation. Nation means society, common people . So criticizing Muslims is not a good logic for the atrocities prevention on Kashmiri Pandits. Why should Muslims be criticized. Is it their responsibility to protect the Kahmiri Pandit . The responsbility lie with the government of the state and at the centre. Muslims are common people just as any other person . General statements must be avoided against any community. Because in every community there are good people as well as bad people.
DeleteThe comment above written was mistakenly deleted. But it is reproduced below-
"With due respect to this article and facts I wants to say that we as a citizen have beem conferred the freedom of speech. If any person wants to raise voice against the persecution in Gaza or any other place it is his/her freedom to do so.(If it was exercised in a reasonable manner). At the same time it is also his/her freedom to make a choice of issues on which to exercise this freedom and on which not to exercise this freedom. If these people have not condemned the persecution of Hindus or Ahmadis in Pakistan or Kashmiri Pandits in Kahsmir, they could not be blamed because they are having the freedom to choose the issues.
But the concern raised by you Sir is much genuine. But it will have to searched and researched that why is it happening? Why people are having solidarity on the religious grounds rather than on the humanitarian ground? Why a person who is much far away feel like a brother rather than a person who is residing next door ? I believe that reasons are historical, reasons are political and reasons are related with identity protection"
You can raise your voice for Gaza but can't raise for our own Indian brothers, why?
DeleteYou say that every one is free for their opinion, then why you are trying to force your opinion on Mr. Katju's article. You may express your opinion if it is that then there is no problem but don't judge Mr. Katju as he is free to express his opinion.
I am just asking you few questions and putting my point of view. You may be right.
Yes, one has the freedom to choose the issue because a person can battle on only so many fronts. But, the choice also indicates something about the person, what he/she feel is important/unimportant.
DeleteExcellent Piece. Hope some media house dare to publish it.
ReplyDeleteTeaching of Islam creates an impression in the minds of its followers that Islam is a virtual nation and also teaches that Muslims should protect and expand it. So to find a solution we must first accept that there is something terribly wrong with the teaching of Islam otherwise all the efforts will be in wrong direction, also on the other hand the members of the virtual nation will be working on their so thought right direction resulting in tragedy for others.
ReplyDeletevery true sir .. When will Muslim understand only tolerance can glorify Islam ...
ReplyDeleteRespected Justice Katju
ReplyDeleteI read your blog post with great intrest.Your assertion that Muslims in India and kashmir in particular have shown selectively outrage when atrocities where done with other communities.you are right sir.It shouldn't have happened.At the moment when Israel is massacring humans in Gaza people like you are comfortable with criminal silence.The GOI has not uttered a single word.This is atrocious and condemnable
Now coming to kashmir.As a kashmiri myself I agree with you that what happened with kashmiri pandits was disfraceful.Yes many of them were killed(J&K govt says 219).Their houses were torched, looted.And the most painful part is they were forced to flee.Yes i agree with you kashmiri muslims failed to stand up for their KP neighbours and friends.But how could we.It was a dreadful era.where every community suffered.Hunderds of muslims were also killed.we are not safe in our homes in 2014 where there is almost negilible millitancy.we are not allowed to protest peacefully even for genuine causes.Have you ever raised you voice for illegal millitary occupation of kashmir.Do you know what. it means to live amidst lakhs of troops.I havent heard you raising your voice when mass rapes took place in kunan poshpora when massacres were carried out in sopore gawkadal bijbehara handwara.?Still i say we should have stood with. our kp brethern and we failed.But what was your govt/army doing here then to prevent the exodus.How could jagmohan not prevent the pandits to migrate from srinagar to jammu which incidently is a 300km long road.
The GOI issued a statement through the External Ministry commenting on the issue. Nothing more can be done. No other National Govts. have done anything more. Whatever can be done, is being done or has been done. Kashmir's troop presence is only because your own state govt. prefers to maintain Article 370 which gives Kashmir greater autonomy and does not allow the central govt to give out much needed funding for your benefit without the state govt interfering in it. The reason why Kashmir has not seen the development the rest of the nation has is because of Omar Abdullah and his govt. The violence happened. We must learn to move on. However, the only way to give Kashmir much needed revenue is through repealing Article 370.
DeleteFine, if the Kashmiri Muslims cannot stand up to terrorists, it is understandable although they seem to be doing quite well in anti India rallys where they throw stones etc. What about the opportunism in looting the houses of Pandits who have fled, buying the properties of Pandits at throw away prices etc?
DeleteWhy should we shed tears for Gaza or whatsoever.. We as Kashmiri Pandits have suffered a lot at the hands of muslims.. Where were you when our houses and temples were looted,and burnt to ashes ? Where was your sane voice when we were kicked out of our roots, killed and women raped.. You in fact were accomplice and guides to terrorists to attack and kill us. You suffered because of your own doing. Any country shall hardly tolerate a rebellion on its soil. How come we raise our voice against human rights violations in Kashmir, when the security forces are fighting an armed rebellion of your own making. Collateral damages are the natural outcome of the actions of the security forces dealing with terrorists. A muslim never raises his voice when Hindus are raped, converted and killed in Bangladesh and Pakistan..
DeleteAs a fellow Kashmiri Pandit , I welcome my MOSES who has reconnected to his identity of Kashmiri Pandit . Almighty bless you. please do visit koshur.blogspot.com
ReplyDeleteI can assure you have discussed d case of ahmedis in my family n strongly condemn it. Will try to spread d message in muslim community. Zlum n injustice on any helpless should not acceptable to any man who claims to be true believer of Allah. In my understanding this s the essence of islam. 'Jurisprudence'.
ReplyDeleteKasmiri muslims should rise above hatred n pettyness, accept their misdoing, ask forgiveness n bring back kashmiri pandits in their homes with full dignity n respect.
Muslims need a lot of introspection n get out of being a monoculture. Reading the Quran in own or known language can be a start as it will help them understand the message n not be misguided. I have read it in english and can vouch its a simple book with good message for everyday living. Patience, forgiveness, duties to family n society, justice, jurisprudence are the essence of islam with monotheism only for God.
ठीक कहा आपने। अमेरिका में एक पागल कुरान जलाने का एलान करता है तो आग लगती है कश्मीर में। अमेरिका ओसामा को मरता है तो आग लगती है सेक्युलर लोगों केदिल में। भारत में 26/11 हुआ तब अरब/मुस्लिम देश से किसी ने पाकिस्तान की आलोचना सुनी? इराक में सुन्नी आतंक फैलाएं, सीरिया में असद ने लाखों मरवा दिए लेकिन सेक्युलर/वामपंथियों की मानवता न जागी। लेकिन इजराइल के मामले में???
ReplyDeleteWhat I would like to know from you Sir is how can justuce be brought to Kashmiri Pandits for the crimes comitted against them & how can they be compensated for loss of property +be resettled if they so wish??
ReplyDeleteVery well written genuine article. I am sure this must be voice of all Hindus (so-called sickulars can b exception.
ReplyDeleteYou said it right. Till now we have seen Hindus at the receieving end in India. Even in Gujrat, Hindus burnt in train had few sympathisers compared to Muslims who were killed in reaction.
ReplyDelete/// But it often happened that if in a village of Kashmir there were , say, 1000 people, of which only 20 or so were Pandits, a group of persons with fire arms would come and selectively kill these 20 Pandits. ///
ReplyDeleteI do not know if this is factually correct about the situation in Kashmir before the mass exodus of Pandits in 1990. However, massacres of Pandits and Sikhs did happen in the subsequent years (1997, 1998, 2003) in which about twenty odd pandits and Sikhs were killed brutally at Wandhama, Chattisinghpora, Nadimarg.
You yourself say massacres of Pandits and Sikhs did happen in the subsequent years (1997, 1998, 2003) so in other words the KP's were vindicated yes. Second there is Kashmir Sangarsh Samiti based in Kashmir it self (non-migrant KP) , it had brought a paper saying from April 1990 to Nov 1990 on an AVERGAGE one Kashmiri Pandit was killed each day in Kashmir. And mind you they were not killed in cross fire or by Forces but by Kashmiri's themselves ( read Kashmri Muslims)
DeleteJustice Katju,seems to be actually mentally very upset due to what happened to Kashmiri Pundits that is his own community and why not ? everyone is upset only when he or they are directly hurt. A person with such education and knowledge am surprised to know that he has little or no wisdom. in simple words he mean to say that when someone killed his father and no one notices or condemned, therefore justice katju will and must keep silence if he see or witness somebody else father is being killed. very good resolution keep it up
ReplyDeleteWhat you mean is you will go on killing hindus, but they should have
Deletethe `wisdom' to support you and protect you so that you can continue your killing uninterrupted.
Sir
ReplyDeleteI studied essays by Edward Morgan Foster in College. The one which attracted me the most was titled "Tolerance". In that Foster argued with conviction that the biggest virtues in life is not love but tolerance. He said that even when people feel when they are in love with each other, they actually tolerate each other. We can never love a stranger but tolerate him/her. In that context I understand fully and agree with your views.
Sir, why have you deleted the earlier post? I dont think you should have bowed to the pressure. Please put it back, if possible.
ReplyDeleteAs blunt and straight to the point as ever...Orzuv !
ReplyDeleteDear Katju Sir,
ReplyDeleteYou are comparing 2 very different scenarios. You are expecting Kashmiri muslims to stand up against militants to protect Kashmiri Pandits. This is not easy as they risk their lifes. In fact more Kashmiri muslims died than Kashmiri Pandits during militancy phase. On several occassions Indian muslims have raised their voices and demonstrated against terrorist attacks. On the other hand standing upto an attocity happening in another country is easy. I feel that Indians in general can do more to stand up against attrocity in general.
We are in the position of a man whose house has been burned down. He must have a roof over his head before he can indulge in more ambitious plans. We had succeeded in creating an emergency shelter that keeps out the rain. We were not prepared for hailstones. However, misfortunes hailed down upon us. Muslim has been living in a veritable blizzard of national, moral, and economic catastrophes.
ReplyDeleteThe Kashmir problem is part of the overall Partition problem. Muslims in what is now India fought hardest for Pakistan but refused to go there. We must make borders porous so Muslims from india ca go to Pakistan or Bangladesh. This includes Kashmiri Muslims.
ReplyDeleteI think that the "moderate muslim" is a myth created by media. Either overtly or covertly, all muslims endorse the Caliphate and Islamic rule: some by strident words and others by studied silence.
ReplyDeleteThanks for raising this issue. May I also request you to let us know how you have assisted Kashmiri Pandits other than writings on social netwroks. If a person who occupied such senior postions in the government could not help the victims ( your own community) what can be expected in future.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailyexcelsior.com/gaza-reverberations-kashmir/
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for putting out what I have been thinking about this issue. I have come across Muslims who justifies even Hitler because he tried to exterminate Jews. The atrocities and religious intolerance of ISIS in Iraq has not grabbed the attention of our Gaza friends. This is atrocious. Most of the vocal Muslim intelligentsia never bothered to condemn any atrocities on other religious groups when the perpetrators are Sunni Muslims. If we really want this intolerance to end the non-vocal members of the community or sect or religion should come out in open in condemning atrocities committed by the group they belong to, then only the message of tolerance will be accepted by all.
उपमहादीप में एक बड़ी समस्या और आन पड़ी हे की अब हिन्दू मुस्लिम साम्प्रदायिकता कठमुल्लवाद कटट्रपंथ और इनका प्रचार केवल सनक और खब्त का ही मसला नहीं रह गए हे बल्कि इनसे राज़नीति और सत्ता की लड़ाई ही नहीं बल्कि और भी लाखो लोगो – लाखो हिन्दू मुस्लिम आदि का कॅरियर का मसला हो गया हे इसमें उनका रोज़गार हे हित हे एन आर आई से लेकर अरब देशो से होने वाली उगाही हे बेहद जटिल हालात हे और अपने रोज़गार पर कोई आंच किसी को बर्दाश्त नहीं होती हे सो समझाने बुझाना भी आसान नहीं हे बहुत कठिन हालात
ReplyDeleteलेकिन सर आप भी इस बात को समझिए की एक सच्चे सेकुलर समाजवादी भारतीय मुस्लिम से ज़्यादा तनाव और मुश्किल से भरे हालात किसी के भी नहीं हे हमें कोई पसंद नहीं करता हमें कोई सपोर्ट नहीं करता हम किसी के काम- मतलब के नहीं होते हम सबसे ज़्यादा तनहा और सबसे छोटे अपापसंखयक हे हम सबसे ज़्यादा सवालो तानो तिश्नो तंज़ियो के शिकार होते हे हमें सबसे बारीक रस्सी पर संतुलन साधना होता हे ज़रा इधर हुए तो मुस्लिम कटटरपन्ति ज़रा उधर हुए तो हिन्दू कटटरपन्ति हमारी जान को आ जाते हे अब फ़र्ज़ कीजिये मेरा अलीगढ यूनिवर्सिटी का टॉपर कज़िन हे में उसके सामने ये कश्मीरी पंडितो का मुद्दा उठाऊंगा तो वो बढ़ चढ़ कर कश्मीरियों पर हुए ज़ुल्मो सितम बताने लगेगा नतीजा किसी मुस्लिम महफ़िल में वो तो हीरो बन जाएगा और में विलेन जिसे पंडितो की ज़्यादा परवाह हे कश्मीरी मुस्लिमो की कम उधर पूरी तरह से सेकुलर होने के कारण हिन्दू कटटरपन्ति भी हमें पसंद नहीं करते क्योकि मुस्लिम कटरपन्ति उनके अधिक काम हे जिनका डर दिखा दिखा कर वो अधिक से अधिक फायदा उठा सकते हे हमारी इसी दुर्गत कारण ही अधिकांश मुस्लिम बुद्धजीवी पत्रकार लेखक इस रास्ते से दूर ही रहते हे अब देखिये मेने सहारनपर के सिखो के जख्मो पर मरहम लगाने की कोशिश की तो मेरे मुस्लिम होने पर ही शक ज़ाहिर किया जाने लगा
ReplyDeletesikander hayat
DeleteJuly 27,2014 at 12:14 AM IST
विष्य से अलग एक बात - में बहुत दुखी महसूस कर रहा हु सहारनपुर बवाल में जो सिखो का नुक्सान हुआ हे उसके लिए में सहारनपुर के सिख समुदाय से क्षमा मांगता हु और इल्तज़ा करता हु की कुछ दंगाईयो की करतूतो के लिए पुरे समुदाय को दोषी न माने 84 के दंगो की एक बड़ी वजह अमीर सिखो की सम्पत्ति की लूटपाट भी था कल सहारनपुर में भी कुछ ऐसा ही हुआ लगता हे कुछ अराजक तत्वों हमेशा ताक में रहते ही कुछ हो तो उन्हें मौका मिले खेर इंशाल्लाह सिख बड़ी जीवट वाली कौम हे वो जल्दी ही इस नुक्सान की भरपाई कर लेंगे एक बार फिर आपसे माफ़ी चाहूंगा अगर कभी मेरे बस का हु तो में जरूर ऐसे अराजक तत्वों की पहचान करके उनके खिलाफ जो कानून के दायरे में रहकर मझसे होगा करूँगाsikander hayat को जवाब )- dubey
July 27,2014 at 03:52 PM IST
हयात साहब......
,कटोरादाव,, कोई आपसे सीखे
sikander hayat को जवाब )- Arshad javed (Roorkee)
August 02,2014 at 01:07 PM IST
जनाब हयात साहब.
आपने तो एकदम से मुस्लिम समुदाय को दंगो और लूट का दोषी साबित कर दिया. भाजपा के एहम रोल को नज़रअंदाज़ ना करे. भाजपा के नेताओ के खुले बयान और उनका एक कार्यकर्ता का दंगे मे मरना उनकी उपस्तिथि दिखते हुए दंगो मे शामिल होने की और इशारा करता है. 1984 का ज़िक्र भी आपने ऐसे किया जैसे वो मुसलमानो ने ही किया हो. जांच होने दीजिये सच सामने आने मे वक़्त भले ही लग जाये मगर सामने ज़रूर आता है. उस एरिया के थाना (क़ुतुबशेर) का इंचार्ज गुरदुवारे वालो से 2 लाख की रिश्वत लेते पकड़ा गया (कल की न्यूज़ देंखे). दंगो का मुख्य आरोपी जिस पर पहले से बहुत सारे केसस चल रहे है उस से सीख समुदाय के जनाब मनमोहन जी से कैसी डील और कैसी बात चल रही थी? (न्यूज़ देखे आज तक पर जिस मे उन्होने खुद ही यह बात बताई) यह सब किस शाजिश की तरफ इशारा करता है, सोचे. जो भी हुआ बहुत बुरा हुआ, जो भी हो दोषियो को सज़ा मिले मगरकोर्ट से मीडिया ट्रायल से नही.
Arshad javed को जवाब )- sikander hayat
August 02,2014 at 03:19 PM IST
जो बाते मेने की वो करनी ही चाहिये ताकि फिलहाल सीखो के जख्मो पर मरहम लगे और पंजाब मे कोई पर्टिकिर्या ना हो माफी माँगेने से किसी के जख्मो पर मरहम लगाने से कोई व्यक्ति छोटा या झूठा नही होता है मेने साफ़ साफ़ लिखा हे की कुछ लोगो की करतूत के लिए हमारे पुरे समुदाय को दोषी न माने फिर भी आप ये लाइन लिखने से बाज़ नहीं आये की '' आपने तो दंगो और लूट -- '' क्यों लिखी आपने ये लाइन ? और कोई रिश्वत खा रहा था कोई अवैध निर्माण कर रहा था भाजपा नेता भी मौजूद थे तो इन बातो का ये मतलब हे की थोड़े से अलपसंख्यक सिखो का इतना नुक्सान कर दिया जाएगा और अगर कल को कोर्ट में साबित भी हो गया की लौडस्पीकर से ऐलान कर कर के हज़ारो लोगो को भड़काया गया था तो भी आप मानेगे थोड़े ही न - ? क्योकि आप जैसे लोग ये मानकर चलते हे की दुनिया में कही भी मुस्लिम गैर मुस्लिम क्लेश हो तो उसमे आँख मूँद कर मुस्लिम का ही सपोर्ट करो ये करके आप सोचते हे की चलो सिर्फ बोलकर ही खासा सवाब कमा लिया . लेकिन में हमेशा सिर्फ इन्साफ और पीड़ित के साथ ही खड़ा होता हु वो चाहे सहारनपुर के मुट्ठी भर सिख हो या गाज़ा के फिलिस्तीनी ( जिनके लिये भी कई बहस की देखे तृप्ति
शुक्ला और अफ़ज़ल भाई के ब्लॉग ) आप एक चुनौती स्वीकार कीजिये में तो हिन्दू कठमुल्लाओं और कटटरपन्तियो का विरोध करते हुए भी मुसलमानो का बचाव करते हुए भी हज़ारो बहस विभिन हिंदी साइटों पर कर चूका हे और कभी न बहस में भागे न हारे बहस वो भी लम्बी लम्बी अब आप मुझे हज़ार नहीं सिर्फ पांच बार ही हिन्दू कटटरपन्तियो के साथ कोई ठीक ठाक लम्बी बहस करके दिखा दीजिये ? और वेस्ट यू पी मे ( या काहे हर जगह ) मुस्लिम समाज मे कट्टरपन्तियो का भी बढ़ता परभाव सॉफ देखा जा सकता है हर जगह मुल्ला टाइप नेता और नेता टाइप मुल्ला भी दिख रहे है आप जितना इन बातो से आंख मूँढ़े रहेंगे भाजपा को उतना ही लाभ होने वाला है लोकसभा के नतीज़ो की भी चेतावनी हमने बहुत पहले दे दी थी
(sikander hayat को जवाब )- Arshad javed (Roorkee)
August 03,2014 at 01:54 AM IST
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मगर इस से यह कहा साबित हुआ के दंगा मुस्लिमो ने ही किया लूट पाट आदि?
कोंसी कोर्ट मे साबित हुआ? न्यूज़ का कोई रेफरेन्स है केस या कोर्ट न. ?
पहले अपने असली नाम और असली पहचान से लिखो .
इधर हमारे मुस्लिम होने पर शक जाहिर किया जा रहा हे हमें संघी कहा जा रहा हे तो उधर संघी हमें सॉफ्ट जिहादी कटटर मुस्लिम आदि कहते हे ( Ravi Shukla
ReplyDeleteJul 17, 2014 - 02:51 PM
सिकंदर हयात तुम्हे तो ज़ामा मस्जिद का इमाम होना चाहिए या आई० एस०आई० का एजेंट, जबरजस्त मुसलमान हो --------------- )यही वो नियति हे जिससे बचने के लिए अधिकांश मुस्लिम लेखक पत्रकार बुद्धिजीवी भागते रहते हे
Dear Justice Katju,
ReplyDeleteAs the first line of defense against insurgent and fundamentalist forces racing to overrun the J&K state, Kashmiri Pandit has been subjected to indescribable mental and physical onslaught.
Acknowledgement of the perversion of India’s secular values by someone that matters is a welcome sign. What’s long overdue from the towering judicial minds is a yearning to reverse the wrongs perpetrated against India’s integrity – abolition of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution. All it will take is a commitment from just one eminent Jurist of your stature to work toward doing away with the special status that allows the separatists and Pakistan to hold the country on tenterhooks. Others are bound to follow.
Conditions couldn’t be more conducive for the passage of a bill that abrogates the special status – one that has kept J&K connected to the Union with an overstretched leash – ready to snap anytime. Why not lead that noble cause? My best wishes for your success in advance.
Ravi Munshi