Wednesday, 19 December 2012

The Delhi Gangrape Case

I have been asked my opinion by many people about the recent gangrape of a girl in a bus in Delhi. I strongly condemn this crime, and am of the opinion that those who are found guilty by a court of law should be given harsh punishment. 

At the same time, I would like to know whether the same hue and cry which has been raised about it in the media and in Parliament would have been raised had this incident happened in some other part of India, particularly in rural India. I am sure it would not. But surely Delhi is not the whole of India. 

There has been hardly any hue and cry to a similar extent about the 250,000 farmers suicide in Vidharbha , Andhra Pradesh and elsewhere over the last 10-15 years( an average of 47 farmers suicide per day, which is still continuing) which is a world record of farmers suicide. There has been very little hue and cry about the fact that 48% of Indian children are malnourished, which is a rate far higher than the Sub-Saharan African countries like Somalia and Ethiopia where the child malnourishment rate is about 33%.

There is very little hue and cry about the massive unemployment in India, the almost total lack of healthcare for our poor people who cannot afford the expenses of a doctor or medicines and have to go to quacks. Education in India is in shambles. Most of the money given by the govt goes to IITs and some other institutes of higher learning but hardly any money is given to primary schools ( particularly in rural areas) where the foundation of knowledge is laid. Prices are skyrocketing, and one wonders how our 80% poor people are surviving, but there is no such hue and cry about it in the media or even in Parliament. There are many others huge socio economic problems facing the nation but very little is discussed about them. 

I am not trying to justify rape but I only request people to maintain a balance and not hype the Delhi gangrape incident as if it is the only problem in the country. Section 376 Indian Penal Code already provides for a maximum of life sentence for rape, and I see no reason why capital punishment should also be provided for it.

250 comments:

  1. Your worship; that is point. but; not to mention it at this juncture as the brutality of the tragedy is terrific.

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    1. yes i agree with the opinion of Mr ketan tirodkar

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    2. Yes. I agree. The law should be justify to all. The punisjhment should be harsh like islamic view

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    3. v hav 2 start defending,it's nvr late 4 one to make right choice,so let us start from here. why ru not able to support, being such wise person instead of giving a list of other event rather u should also bring up such causes which support these incidents of farmer killing. you must try 2 cum forward instead of pushing others.

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    4. Dear Mr. Katju,
      At some point I agree to what you have written. But, let us look at the facts in this case. Do you think that people have time to raise hue and cry for every situation. In a country like India, where corruption is at its peak, the best we can do is to educate ourselves, respect and protect our family, and to prevent our future generations from the crime existing in society today. And, how do you expect our Ministers to do something for our country considering the fact that politics for them is a job or an opportunity to move forward in life, particularly because they have failed in all other spheres of life.
      None of us can do anything but can only think of making a small change in the society around us. Rest, we all need to fend for ourselves, earn for our family. We can watch but cannot participate regarding every issue.

      The need of the hour is to be practical and not be swayed by emotions. And yes, I do not agree with the last line in your blog regarding capital punishment. I believe that capital punishment is the only appropriate answer to a crime as heinous as rape. May be being a man, you would never understand as to what it happens being raped and destroyed for life. And life imprisonment is just a formality in our country because after few years, convicts get bailed by some way or the other. Classic examples are Nitish Kartaria murder case, BMW hit and run case, and many other rape cases of whom you have more knowledge than other people.

      Regards

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    5. Respected Sir, you are just trying to dilute the crime done by a gang of PUBLIC TRASPORT employees with unarmed and helpless victim. Whereas the crime was done in a runing bus crossing score of the police station this shows there motive. It was done in CAPITAL of INDIA which we pramote safe heaven for civilians and has been given special staus under indian constitution. In Delhi thousand of girls come to study and employment from accross the INDIA. Sir, what do you think that there parents should send them or keep away from DELHI because of insecurity ? If they will not come or send them by there parents, we may run short of various employees and students in DELHI number of business and educational institution will come on the verge of closer. Nobody deny yours concern for other part of country situation of crime etc. for that we have elected MLA's/MP's and govt they will do there duty but let Capital of INDIA perform duty in a quickest manner and its not good to influence them by your view that "YEH TOU HAR JAGAH HOTA RAHATA HAI".
      So it is beter if you do not compair this crime with any other crime or death in Accidante, Malaria, TB etc. Therefore i see it is unnecesary for person like you to involve in this kind of debate.

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    6. Todays news :
      8-year-old Dalit girl raped, killed in Bihar : In yet another shocking reminder of the routine violence suffered by women, an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district. The body was found in a canal on Tuesday morning, a day after she went missing from home.

      http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/8yearold-dalit-girl-raped-killed-in-bihar/article4218550.ece

      The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”

      The same question Justice Katju asked. Ironic indeed. Katju is right.

      ****MUST READ****

      Narrativizing Rape and the Politics of Outrage

      I think it's fair to say that many of us feel great revulsion and anger at the sexual abuse of the young woman in Guwahati. And rightly so. It's frightening how despite many efforts, a large section of the population still justify rape and harassment by blaming it on clothes or the 'moral character' of the women.

      http://beta.bodhicommons.org/article/narrativizing-rape-and-the-politics-of-outrage

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      Time to be ashamed

      Perhaps the real tragedy we must contemplate, as we consider the story of the young woman who now lies in a Delhi hospital bed battling for her life after being brutally beaten and gang-raped Sunday night, is this: in six months or less, she will have been forgotten.
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/time-to-be-ashamed/article4214334.ece

      ****MUST READ****

      ****Rape and the crisis of Indian masculinity*****

      Even as the world remains shocked and horrified by the gunning down of 20 little children in Newtown, Connecticut, we need to turn some of that shock and horror toward our own selves. The gang rape in the capital of a paramedical student, who lies in critical condition in hospital, should more than just outrage us. Rape is not simply about law and order, or about deranged individuals. Nor is the problem going to be solved by more laws, more police on our streets, more CCTV cameras on our buses or stiffer sentences for rapists. The gang rapes that are occurring with alarming regularity must compel us to reflect upon who we are as a society.

      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/rape-and-the-crisis-of-indian-masculinity/article4214267.ece

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    7. no mr katju in my openion you should rest at house donot give such kinds of statments

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    8. Two days after the Ghastly rape in Delhi which shook the whole nation, Chairman of Press Council Mr Katju, expressed his opinion that there is too much hue and cry on this issue and there are lot of issues which deserve same amount of hue and cry.

      Mr Katju has also said in his blog that "those who are found guilty by a court of law should be given harsh punishment." he probably meant this would be done in "due course of time"

      He has opinion on all issues like Gujarat elections, freedom of speech,farmer suicides, superstition among Indian etc etc.

      Surprisingly he doent seem to think anything is wrong with our judicial system.

      Only those who believe in Hindu philosophy of reincarnation, still have faith left in Indian Judiciary.
      It takes generations to settle matter in courts, not years.

      Law they say is Blind.

      Common people like me think law is not only blind, but also deaf & mute, and helpless.

      It doesnt seem to have enough power and more importantly the "will" to punish the culprits.

      If conviction rates continue to be as low as they are, there is no way crime rates will reduce.

      Common people are upset and are "hoping" for a stringent action.

      Mr Katju's statement on this issue may surprise few people.

      He was very swift in sending a "stinker" to Maharashtra CM when a young girl was arrested by Maharashtra State Police.

      He was so emotional that, he sent a reminder in few hours and was very angry that CM had not responded to him in just a matter of few hours.

      Come on Mr Katju.

      You have spent enough years in our judiciary system to know that people dont expect any action by people in power

      - be it ministers, bureaucrats, judiciary, journalists.

      Definitely not in few hours.

      Its been more than 8 years since Afzhal Guru has been convicted by Supreme Court for "raping" the symbol of Indian democracy.

      Nothing has happened.

      I hope Mr Katju gets some courage to send a stringent warning to President of India, and Home Minister to take an action and "threaten" them with a case for contempt of court.

      Some people were angry with Mr katju when he made a statement that 90% of indians are fools.

      I wasnt upset about it for two reasons.
      1. It is just his opinion.
      All his life he was paid for making judgements.
      This is just one more. The only difference is he is not in power anymore.
      So it doesnt have to be true nor binding.
      However, i am now feel sorry for people who were found "guilty" by him.
      Not sure if it was based on some evidence, or just his bias.

      2.All of us deal with peers in our professions.

      If you are a scientist, you may deal with significantly more than average share of brilliant people.

      All his life, he has spent with Judges, Lawyers etc, and his opinion could be based on people he always dealt with.

      its his professional hazard.

      Lot of people like me feel that guilty should be punished, and quickly.
      However here's what may happen in the next few days.

      Ram Jethmalani and Majid Menon would book a new apartments, since all these culprits would probably go to them.

      Mahesh Bhatt once he comes out of the mourning period (of Narendra Modi's Victory) will announce making a movie on Ram Singh and Mukesh.

      Arundhati Roy will hold a candle light vigil outside Mukesh and Ram's house

      Beni Prasad Verma will plead against capital punishment since it would benefit BJP.

      The only encouraging news that we read was inmates in Tihar thrashed Ram Singh and punished him.

      We only hope that judicial system feels the anger and pain of common people.

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  2. every event has a tipping point and probably this is the one for rape. Whatever hype it is getting is worth it.

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    1. Agree Strongly. At least it will start from some point, shouldnt wait for next!

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    2. Mr. Katju,

      I am not agree with you. I know, in the villages, the conditions of Girls is not good, but Rape is Rape whatever village's girl or city girl. You could not club the Farmer's suicide with rape case.

      Regards,
      Dharmendra

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    3. Mr. Katju,

      I am not agree with you. I know, in the villages, the conditions of Girls is not good, but Rape is Rape whatever village's girl or city girl. You could not club the Farmer's suicide with rape case.

      Regards,
      Dharmendra

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    4. @Dharmendra Chaudhary,

      Ok let us compare rape is a rape. When was the last time media and middle classes had made so much noise on the gang rape of a dalit or tribal woman? They do not even make it to the mainstream media.
      http://mohallalive.com/2012/11/12/terror-of-spos-in-jharkhand/

      Peace,
      Desi Girl

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    5. Todays news :
      8-year-old Dalit girl raped, killed in Bihar : In yet another shocking reminder of the routine violence suffered by women, an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district. The body was found in a canal on Tuesday morning, a day after she went missing from home.

      http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/8yearold-dalit-girl-raped-killed-in-bihar/article4218550.ece

      The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”

      The same question Justice Katju asked. Ironic indeed. Katju is right.

      ****MUST READ****

      Narrativizing Rape and the Politics of Outrage

      I think it's fair to say that many of us feel great revulsion and anger at the sexual abuse of the young woman in Guwahati. And rightly so. It's frightening how despite many efforts, a large section of the population still justify rape and harassment by blaming it on clothes or the 'moral character' of the women.

      http://beta.bodhicommons.org/article/narrativizing-rape-and-the-politics-of-outrage

      ****MUST READ****

      Time to be ashamed

      Perhaps the real tragedy we must contemplate, as we consider the story of the young woman who now lies in a Delhi hospital bed battling for her life after being brutally beaten and gang-raped Sunday night, is this: in six months or less, she will have been forgotten.
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/time-to-be-ashamed/article4214334.ece

      ****MUST READ****

      ****Rape and the crisis of Indian masculinity*****

      Even as the world remains shocked and horrified by the gunning down of 20 little children in Newtown, Connecticut, we need to turn some of that shock and horror toward our own selves. The gang rape in the capital of a paramedical student, who lies in critical condition in hospital, should more than just outrage us. Rape is not simply about law and order, or about deranged individuals. Nor is the problem going to be solved by more laws, more police on our streets, more CCTV cameras on our buses or stiffer sentences for rapists. The gang rapes that are occurring with alarming regularity must compel us to reflect upon who we are as a society.

      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/rape-and-the-crisis-of-indian-masculinity/article4214267.ece

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    6. @girlsguidetosurvival,
      Does this mean that the current media hype should not be allowed because it was not raised earlier for other rapes? Sadly, we can't balance our views

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  3. While the cry for capital punishment is obviously a knee-jerk reaction to the heinous crime, it is important to participate in this debate at this point. Perhaps contemplating on preventive measures in the need of the hour.

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  4. Dear Justice Katju. There is hypocrisy in a Parliament which empathizes with 1 victim but forgets hundreds of similar ones from other parts of India.

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    1. you are Right. very sensible comments.

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  5. Before we widen the discussion so much that we lose all the focus, notice that this incident is NOT just rape and I use the "just" in the previous line knowing fully well how heinous the crime is, this is psychopathic cold blooded attempt to murder. Justice Katju, does that not beget the capital punishment? If this isn't the rarest of rare cases, I agree with the many MPs, whatever their ulterior motives might be, that the law must be amended.

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  6. Yes Sir, u r right. Agree to all the problems that r stated in here and it definetly is a major point to be highlighted but the fact is that there isnt much that a legal judisury system can do to resolve such issues on a stand alone point. The expectations of ppl, media and everyone in INDIA with regards to the Delhi gang-rape is that thru this major "hue or cry", as u stated, be taken from serious vantage point and make it a point that nothing less than that of a capital punishment justifies the crime cuz no rape is not an accident. Its a violation of a person's right to life, degrading a person's indivduality, social security and above all, a big right challenge to the Country's system of law and constitution.


    Maybe there is no reason y capital punishment shud be provided but it sure will send out the message to remaining mass in the country that we do respect and safe guard the dignity and purity of women in the society, be it in the urban or rural world, and breach to this will not be tolerated by the country and its respected judisury.

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  7. Way back similar hue and cry was made in what came to be known as Chopra children case in which countrywide alert was given and culprits Bill and Ranga were arrested and later hanged. Delhi remained peaceful for about two decades after that.

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  8. Agree that there are many other serious problems that affect the entire nation. Agree also that gender-related violence exists on a daily basis across India, and this is just one case.

    But perhaps this is the tipping point - one rape too many. The public pressure created around this one horrific case can build greater awareness bring about systemic changes - fast-track courts for crimes against women, greater sensitivity about gender issues, police reform, harsher punishments.

    These measures would go a long way in addressing many of India's problems: from female infanticide and child marriage, to sexual harassment and dowry deaths.

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    1. Todays news :
      8-year-old Dalit girl raped, killed in Bihar : In yet another shocking reminder of the routine violence suffered by women, an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district. The body was found in a canal on Tuesday morning, a day after she went missing from home.

      http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/8yearold-dalit-girl-raped-killed-in-bihar/article4218550.ece

      The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”

      The same question Justice Katju asked. Ironic indeed. Katju is right.

      ****MUST READ****

      Narrativizing Rape and the Politics of Outrage

      I think it's fair to say that many of us feel great revulsion and anger at the sexual abuse of the young woman in Guwahati. And rightly so. It's frightening how despite many efforts, a large section of the population still justify rape and harassment by blaming it on clothes or the 'moral character' of the women.

      http://beta.bodhicommons.org/article/narrativizing-rape-and-the-politics-of-outrage

      ****MUST READ****

      Time to be ashamed

      Perhaps the real tragedy we must contemplate, as we consider the story of the young woman who now lies in a Delhi hospital bed battling for her life after being brutally beaten and gang-raped Sunday night, is this: in six months or less, she will have been forgotten.
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/time-to-be-ashamed/article4214334.ece

      ****MUST READ****

      ****Rape and the crisis of Indian masculinity*****

      Even as the world remains shocked and horrified by the gunning down of 20 little children in Newtown, Connecticut, we need to turn some of that shock and horror toward our own selves. The gang rape in the capital of a paramedical student, who lies in critical condition in hospital, should more than just outrage us. Rape is not simply about law and order, or about deranged individuals. Nor is the problem going to be solved by more laws, more police on our streets, more CCTV cameras on our buses or stiffer sentences for rapists. The gang rapes that are occurring with alarming regularity must compel us to reflect upon who we are as a society.

      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/rape-and-the-crisis-of-indian-masculinity/article4214267.ece

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  9. Dear Justice Katju,

    I do agree with the point that India has too many other problems to tackle but I do not
    agree with the statement that hue and cry should not be made and delhites should maintain balance. There are several perils of Indian society and rape is one of the major ones. Your statement that if the same had happened in a rural area such outrage would not have happened. This is untrue as haryana rape cases got enough footage in the media. The reason why everyone has been devasted and forced to raise their voices is because of the brutality of the incedent and the shamelessness of the accused. The growing restlessness is owing to recurring instances of rape and hipocrisy of our society which treats women differently to men and put them down in all situations. The prime question we face as an Indian is why are we becoming increasingly intolerant to our own people? Why does our nation have such high rates of rape and crimes against women? Rapes happen everywhere but only do they occur at an alarming rate in our country. Researchers too blame the existence of rape myths and the urge to dominate as the major reason for rape. How can we ignore a societal fault? It is something we need to deal with immediately if we want to be a civilised society. I love my country but I cannot ignore the faults and problems. Acknowleding them is the first step towards a better society. I am disappointed that you havent considered it as a fault in our society.

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    1. मार्कन्डेय काटजू (d.....g) tumhari beti ya wife ke sath hua hota to??????? f.........k.................o..........f

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    2. soch samajh ke likho dost, police le jaaegi utha ke, aur tum kah bhi nahin skaoge ki maine kya kiya. thoda dimaag laga liya karo likhne se pehle.

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    3. Yes I think this man Katju has the habbit of knowingly saying something against the opinion of the masses. By doing this he gets the publicity anyway. I totally disagree with this great a**h**e. I really doubt his calibre to be what he is at present. There is no need to equate this incident with farmer's suicides that only a deranged person w'l do. Anyway I don't expect anything positive from his man; it is a pity that he was sitting as supreme court judge. He must have f**k*d many peoples lives there.

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  10. Sir,
    I completely agree with your viewpoints. There are lot of social evils in India and we need to take a holistic look at them.
    There is one more area that needs reform - Nutrition. A lot of processed food manufacturers are falsely labelling items as "healthy" without disclosing complete nutrition data. Gullible parents fall for it and our children will suffer obesity and malnutrition over time. Reforms are needed to ensure:
    1) All processed foods have nutrition labels disclosing not just fats, carbs or proteins but also sodium cholride, breakup of fats, breakup of carbs, vitamins and minerals.
    2) Government agency to accredit items as "healthy" or not (just like FDA in USA)

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  11. Sir
    Agreed to the points that you have made ..but in the same process if the parliament and those ruling elite (Coz of the public anger & disgust) if bring about a stricter law against these crimes ...

    The value of an average Indian is cheap sir ... so may be a 1000 rapes and death may be equated to that of a significant number for the authorities to act...
    the life of farmers may be even less valuable so the numbers has to go up for the authorities to act ....

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  12. Sir,
    whatever you have mentioned in ur post, that is totally your opinion but I partially disagree with that. I agree that many issues in our country go unnoticed but that doesn't mean that hue and cry shouldn't be raised for such an incident which has crossed all the limits of brutality.

    The victim is under severe physical pain and she'll have to face the mental trauma of the incident thereafter. A girl was raped and beaten for 9 minutes..don't you think that such an incident should prove to be a base for bringing strictest law and alltogether capital punishment for the accused is justified.. Coz sending someone through such a physical and mental trauma do falls in rarest of the rare cases.

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  13. * in my previous comment it should be 90 minutes.

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  14. It is brilliant to see your eminence bring up education, unemployment, malnutrition, and other systemic and generic issues. However, surely you can see the difference? I do hope you can see how this violation of a commoner in the heart of an urban city which is supposed to be a pillar of law and order for the whole country is a big thing? The ruthless manner in which this has happened clearly shows that the perpetrators of the crime had no fear of the potential repercussions ... and this is again quite significant. Also, this is something we can all do something about - however, the other "big" issues you mentioned are something far out of the reach of us commoners, and maybe you can lobby with the govt to get this acted on !

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    1. You spoke my mind Abhay. How can these issues be compared? Respected Katju Sir, I am really sorry to say but being a common female, I can not think about Vidarbha farmers or malnutrioned children(unless I attain some sort of Nirvana), while I feel unsafe even in broad day light. For you probably is just one of the issues in India, but for me, it could be me instead of the victim. And instead of addressing us commoners, probably you should address the parliament which does not do anything unless a hype is created. I mean are we expected to create hype about every issue in India, only then the government would work?

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  15. India is a society that shows most apathy of all developed and developing nations in the world to its children who beg on the streets, to its women who are enslaved in flesh trade, to its handicapped who get teased, the list is long. India is society that is Darwin evolution - as a reality show. The wealthier and powerful shamelessly trampling the weak and the vulnerable.

    The rape is just a symptom of a deeply sick and hypocritical society and YOU all are responsible for making it one, in your own little way and YOU know it!

    Ganashatru

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  16. Sir,
    Yes the problems you mentioned are neccessary to be solved but this evil thing Rape is a serious issue, our society is becoming unsafe for female day by day so it is matter of priority now, so such a hue & cry is expected & must..

    If our Constitution gives females equal rights who are men to snatch their freedom & Liberty ?? Its also breach of Constitution and a Serious matter to be dealt with

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    1. My frnd
      He is not saying to ignore this brutal incident.
      He is just saying to notice the other crimes as well with same attitude ....

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    2. "Fiat justitia ruat caelum " meaning "Let justice be done though the heavens fall." The maxim signifies the belief that justice must be realized regardless of consequences.

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  17. Just because the Government is not doing enough on other fronts does not mean such acts of violation should go unnoticed!

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  18. Greetings Sir

    We agree with your opinion that journalism is rife with hype and "breaking news" but there is a bright and important side to that. We think that it is needed. One of my friends has elaborated on the view at our online magazine "The Indian Fusion". Will be delighted if you and your blog followers could read and comment on the same. The link where the views are posted is http://indianfusion.aglasem.com/?p=37588

    Thank you

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  19. I don't get your point your honor.

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  20. Sir

    With due respect,I totally disagree with your statement.The points of my disagreement are as follows:

    1. The girl doesn't belong to a wealthy or elite family. She has taken the bus to save money. Media is hyping the story of a poor woman who couldn't afford 100 bucks to take an auto to her home. If the suffering of a commoner like her is getting enough attention from all quarters, I think the society is on the right path.

    2. The girl as per my knowledge belong to any small town in UP. She is not an elite Delhite. All of us suffer the same in places where such incidents remain unnoticed or unreported.But if the same happens in a place where billions of rupees are spent every year to provide impeccable security,it's more than worth for all of us to raise our voice.

    3.Delhi belongs to every citizen of India as all of us had paid our taxes on time to bring development in Delhi which can't even be thought in small places. We send our sisters & daughters to work in Delhi believing that at least they will be safe in a city which houses more than 50000 cops just in the security of VIP's.If something happens in Delhi, than I believe that no place in India is safe & we better accept a talibanization of the society to keep our sisters & daughters safe.

    Sir, I had been a physics student in my career. all I understand is that impulse is the only way to change the momentum on any ongoing system. Our society has stagnated to a momentum which is not changing, we are in a vicious cycle to hear & ignore such things as our daily routine. This incident has provided us a golden chance to take impulsive decisions & change the momentum of our society. Please allow the media to hype this case to the extent that all those who fear that their sisters/daughters may be the next prey, can polarize themselves to bring necessary change in the system & society.

    (Sir, these views are my fully personal views & I am writing this in capacity of a brother/husband. I do not intend to contempt or overrule your views)

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    1. Todays news :
      8-year-old Dalit girl raped, killed in Bihar : In yet another shocking reminder of the routine violence suffered by women, an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district. The body was found in a canal on Tuesday morning, a day after she went missing from home.

      http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/8yearold-dalit-girl-raped-killed-in-bihar/article4218550.ece

      The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”

      The same question Justice Katju asked. Ironic indeed. Katju is right.

      ****MUST READ****

      Narrativizing Rape and the Politics of Outrage

      I think it's fair to say that many of us feel great revulsion and anger at the sexual abuse of the young woman in Guwahati. And rightly so. It's frightening how despite many efforts, a large section of the population still justify rape and harassment by blaming it on clothes or the 'moral character' of the women.

      http://beta.bodhicommons.org/article/narrativizing-rape-and-the-politics-of-outrage

      ****MUST READ****

      Time to be ashamed

      Perhaps the real tragedy we must contemplate, as we consider the story of the young woman who now lies in a Delhi hospital bed battling for her life after being brutally beaten and gang-raped Sunday night, is this: in six months or less, she will have been forgotten.
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/time-to-be-ashamed/article4214334.ece

      ****MUST READ****

      ****Rape and the crisis of Indian masculinity*****

      Even as the world remains shocked and horrified by the gunning down of 20 little children in Newtown, Connecticut, we need to turn some of that shock and horror toward our own selves. The gang rape in the capital of a paramedical student, who lies in critical condition in hospital, should more than just outrage us. Rape is not simply about law and order, or about deranged individuals. Nor is the problem going to be solved by more laws, more police on our streets, more CCTV cameras on our buses or stiffer sentences for rapists. The gang rapes that are occurring with alarming regularity must compel us to reflect upon who we are as a society.

      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/rape-and-the-crisis-of-indian-masculinity/article4214267.ece

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  21. Dear sir,
    The mood of society is not guided by the generality and larger problems but by particularity of an emergency. Rape of a girl is not the issue but the patriarchal values which will try to shift the focus from the ravishing of the dignity of the women to some other equally important issue.
    Sir, your comment will provide a solace for the patriarchal sociopaths in India. Rape of a woman and its consequences to the victim and larger society is as important an issue as a farmer suicide.
    Parliament and media will also be shifting the focus from this rape mania to some other issue which may not be comparatively as grave as this one is or those raised by you.
    I stand enlightened by your comments, your lordship.

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  22. Dear Mr Katju,
    Let me say that I follow your writings regularly since the time you have taken over the responsibility of PCI chairman and asked press to retrospect.
    In your today's post you have obviously condemned the attack and ask for a harsh punishment for the culprits. There are few points which I wish to raise about for which I have a disagreement of highest level -
    The issues you are raising today and criticizing media and common people of not making hue & cry about these issues are totally unwarranted in current circumstances. Being the chairman of PCI you could and have been raising these issues again & again , hence please don't undermine the current issue and try to overshadow it with those other issues. Being from a marginal farmer's family of southern haryana I share the pain of farmers condition and feel even more agitated than you - http://yogeshnuniwal.blogspot.in/2010/04/blog-post.html .
    Please let us know, is the issue of current judicial system in respect to rape victims is non - relevant, shouldn't media and other orgn have the right to make a hue & cry about this. In fact thats the language current legislative system understand.
    Coming from a rural background I fully understand how things are different at places which are 50-60 km away from Delhi. But that doesn't mean we stop challenging x because y is not been challenged.
    I see your article as just a diversion tool, which could have lashed out at farmers also if they had protested for 10 days at Jantar Mantar.

    Thanks & Regards,
    Yoegsh

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  23. This incident is used to create an unnecessary ripple in the soceity and make sexual harassment laws stricter. Many are demanding death penalty for the accused. But hardly they understand that death penalty for any crime can't be made out of a single phenomenon. We had seen similar situation created before the dowry harassment and the DV act was passed and today we know we have mostly misuses. Men today do not get justice and in DV we are reqd. to pay up maintenace even to most abusive wives. For some criminals in the society all married men are suffering the biased laws and stricter legal process..

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  24. dear katju do u have a daughter if yes ask her she will tell and u will get your answers

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    1. That is enough to elaborate to a justice. law ke sath sensitivity bhi honi cahiye... .justice sahab ko yatra pe jana cahiye ab... ye books apne peeche chor kar.... thnx

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  25. Mr.Justice,
    your comments on the delhi gang rape issue are not appropriate at all. it is more like from the mouth of an ordinary person rather than a learned person let alone a judge. if a case of rape from a rural place is brought to the public notice all the outraged people now are not going to be less outraged just because the woman involved is from a rural place. your comments are like some section of people always making counter arguments on issues at hand. like the ones, who argues, on the cases of violence to search and eliminate the root causes of the violence to avoid violence. like the ones, in cases of crimes against women, who squarely blames women for dressing in appropriately. as a learned person and a judge at high level, you deal with the issue at hand, do not compare and differentiate between past and future or rural and urban or anything else. if you do so, that will make the condemnations look much weaker than they should be.

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  26. Katju you are a real asshole....

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    1. Your are free to disagree but not in this manner.

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    2. You are fee to disagree but not in this manner.

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  27. The Delhi incident was very sad but at the same time We want to blame the media persons for this because the media is giving priority to this kind of news.

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  28. Dear Mr. Katju,
    There is a difference between a single significant event, and a chronic situation. The shock of such a heinous crime in the heart of what is a "civilized" (by which I mean, by and large, the rule of law works) part of the country in almost plain-sight when many people would have been out and about, is what has gotten everyone to take notice, talk about it and think about measures to prevent such events occurring in the future - which is good. It takes a shock to wake one up from the slumber of everyday existence.

    Chronic problems that blight the country are much harder to address - yet another farmer committed suicide in some far away land, yes, too many children suffer from malnutrition, female foeticide is rampant, our primary education system is woefully inadequate, the air we breathe is too polluted, the water in our taps is undrinkable, the list goes on. But we live today in these circumstances. Only tragedies force us to wake up from our slumber to act. How many tragedies will it take for us to address each of these problems, and how much longer till we find at least some reasonable solutions ?

    -R.

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  29. katjuji,maine aap ko ndtv par prime time prog.me kafi baar suna hai.par aaj aap ne apani akal bata di.Well done katjuji,aaj yakin ho gaya ki har padha likha buddhiwaan nahi hota.bewakuffff.

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  30. Dear Mr. Katju

    I think you don't have a sister, daughter, mother or any lady in your family otherwise you would not place such type type of blog post. Place yourself as a victim's father, brother or son etc. and then you will get the real content to write.

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  31. What impact the present hue and cry will have on the society. Will it not cause more sensitisation among the people of the country. Will that work to improve the situation. It is highly inappropriate to condemn this hue and cry.

    So far as the other deaths are concerned will this hue and cry in Delhi or other metros be able to sensitise any one related with these deaths. I do not think so.

    We should not divert the issues by raising other issues when one issues is being dealt with.

    The other replies whether Mr. Katju has a daughter are also not called for. There is no reason to get personal. This simply reflects on the ability to apply mind on a particular by a particular issue. Such comments means to degrade a person which should never be done.

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  32. Mr. Katju, Better if you can give your suggestion to create strict rule to govt of India judiciary regarding this kind of activity, because earlier law is not suitable as per current situation in our country.

    Imprisonment is the punishment to culprit but not the justice for the victim.

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  33. sir isse pahle ki aur sunne ko mil rai hai ki apna statement sudhar kar ma, bahan ko dhayn main rakh kar bolain....

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  34. Dear anonymous and confusions ,

    Comments section is for enhancing the value of blog post by adding some valuable comments and points and not by personal attacks.

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  35. I've been a fan of the learned judge and strongly support some of the things you have said and done in the recent past ......but you are totally off the mark here, sure there are 100 things wrong with our country and linking them all together like you have just stated here wont solve any issues. Treatment and safety of women is one of the main issues and even now the attention it is getting is far less than what it actually deserves.

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    1. Todays news :
      8-year-old Dalit girl raped, killed in Bihar : In yet another shocking reminder of the routine violence suffered by women, an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district. The body was found in a canal on Tuesday morning, a day after she went missing from home.

      http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/8yearold-dalit-girl-raped-killed-in-bihar/article4218550.ece

      The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”

      The same question Justice Katju asked. Ironic indeed.

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  36. U are 100% right.........

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  37. Hon. Justice Katju,

    You have raised some pertinent questions. I would agree with you that - media never raises serious questions across the board.

    The crime in Delhi is heinous and is to be condemned seriously and swift action must be taken. But is that media should do 24 * 7 day after day? Law is very strict in India already on this (for convicted rapes - in India 1.7 convicted rapes per 100,000, in the US it is )and in India law is the one of the strongest.

    When infant deaths happen across the country like epidemic, media as if goes completely black.Today a 5 yr old child was sexually assaulted by a Woman and I am 100% sure media will not ever report.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Child-abuse-victim-moved-out-of-Bangalore/articleshow/17672793.cms
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    2 days before in another incident in Chennai, a married woman of 47 killed his husband of 66; chopped his body, hands and legs and packed them into a bag.
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-12-15/chennai/35835840_1_body-parts-gunny-bags-manali

    Yesterday, in a similar incident in Mumbai, a married woman with the help of her paramour, the wife smothered her husband with a wire, cut him into 11 pieces and dumped his body.
    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mumbai-woman-kills-chops-her-husbands-body-into-11-pieces/311046-3-237.html
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    In recent memory, there has been another killing in Mumbai when a young man was killed while protesting against eve teasing of a woman. The young man was no way related to the woman. Also in the case of Amritsar, Punjab, a father was killed point blank when he protested on the eve teasing of his daughter. The serious case of family in distress, a loss of father, a loss of husband, the loss of only one bread winner of the family never highlighted!
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    Why the privacy of the man who tried to resist the rape case of Delhi is not as important as the woman – his employment flashed, his locality flashed and hell, even his name is flashed!!

    Why is that men (almost always it is men) who always try to protect women from such crimes are never highlighted?

    Why is that our women MPs never cry in Parliament when a man is tortured, brutalized and killed - even when he happens to be a hero who gave his life for the nation! (remember Captain Saurav Kalia?)? Where is the mother's heart then?

    Why is that we Indians as a society think men are the disposable sex when it comes to crime against men and women? Is not mostly the men, however few may be, who always go on to help women in distress?
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    Everyone knows TV is for women mostly and hence the media titillates with one sided news, incomplete data and pure sensationalism. For the fellow males who have commented, would request to check the data on NCRB (ncrb.co.in) on violence on men, deaths, suicides, harassment they go through their daily lives. It is men who work outdoor the most and it is men who life is lived less as compared to women (in India around 6 years less and in some places 9 years less!)

    Though it is a gen X or Y age and even though you like our heroes romancing 2 to 3 heroines half there age in swiss alps; still I believe your consider your father is equally important as your girfriend and your mother is equally important as your wife and your brother is equally deserved to be noticed and as cared for as Katrina Kaif, if not less.

    Does our media even report once the gross fundamental human rights abuse that men in low end profession and death professions, go through daily - the garbage collector, the farmers, the security guards, the firefighters, the army men, the mine workers... ??? Perhaps because they are all men!!!

    Thank you,
    The Warrior For Justice
    http://thewarriorforjustice.wordpress.com

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    1. Excellent and high quality response.

      Men violence is highest in this country (will be much more higher than women), but never gets reported!

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    2. Though the issue is not of equality between men and woman . The issue is crime against society must not go unpunished be it man or woman . Law does not discriminate , he is the spirit who adheres to no emotions, who adheres to no compulsion , who knows no fear neither pain , he only knows justice and he delivers that . “Fiat justitia, ruat caelum'' let justice be done though heavens fall .
      But my friend , very aptly written and informed . Justice must be equal for all . All issues are equal . Rape of one woman is equal to rape of any other woman , Assault to one man is equal to assault to any other man in India .
      Cheers .

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  38. Those who criticising your honour should read his first paragraph. He strongly condemns it. As usual people getting emotional and loosing their sense of perspective.

    I would like to appeal to your honour, how can we ask judiciary to work 7 days a week (including extending the working hours during the week). Why courts cannot be opened on weekends as well until the backlog has been cleared. I know it sounds unfair but is it at all possible?

    Also can he kindly enlighten us (maybe in his next article) under what conditions Courts can take a sou moto.

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  39. I expected you to be thankful that this incident had captured our attention otherwise we had become used to it.
    If you feel the demand of people a undeserved hype you better imagine this on yourself. Sorry for saying something like this.
    Who the hell cares for anything when your sisters and mothers are subjected to such threats.
    Mr Katju never forget our ashmita is always before everything and such incidents are not blot on anyone's ashmita but the ashmita of our society.
    Our first duty is to become civilized and everything else is second to it.

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  40. dear sir
    aapki soch achchhi nahi hai isi liye kabhi desh ko sahi nyay nahi mil pata hai. yadi aap kisi ek vyakti ko santust nahi kar sakate to samaz me shayad kisi ko santust nahi kar sakate. aapka to bas yahi hisab hai nayak film ke ambrish puri jaisa.

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  41. Sure M agree 100% with ur views sir.but need make strong & healthy society.Firstly its our duty to handle it before to blame someone.

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  42. Dear sir,

    As a former Supreme court Justice of India, we appreciate your concerns, but this is not the Right time to mingle with the farmers suicide to this case.

    Your opinion should be only about the Rape Case of Delhi.

    Commenting the details of the IPC code 376 in details makes ordinary man more knowledgeable about the maximum punishment. As per your view 90% of Indians are Idiots they are thought of that maximum punishment to Rape is Death.You had disclosed the truth.

    No Body is writing the Truth Heartily in the media.

    But Social Media provide us to view your ideas without editing.

    Opinion is 100 % Right.

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  43. Respected Sir,

    I agree with your opinion given by you here, But this is not you were asked for... you were not supposed to put other issues over here for this matter.
    And in your last lines you said that I see no reason why capital punishment should also be provided for it. So, my question is, Just think as a father, Brother, or, A Husband. That, if, on the place of that girl, in the same condition your own daughter, Sister, or your wife would be there... then, as a father, brother, or a husband, what punishment you would have asked for the criminals.
    Mr Katju, Rules are made to support and help people, and can be changed if needed. This is not fare if a rule is there in the Law, that must be provided, that must be changed or, I mean, punishment level can be increased according to the condition.

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  44. Dear Sir,

    Thanks for showing some harsh facts.

    You are right, CRIME IS A CRIME AND HAS TO BE CONDEMNED AND PUNISHED IN ACCORDANCE TO THE LAW. If India, allowed even Kasab to live for so many days providing him with Human Rights to fight his case, so must be the process for every other human being. Denied right of defense is wrong.
    People might say, "the girl who was raped was denied Human Rights". True, thats the reason it is treated as CRIME. By not allowing right to trial and defense, would be another crime and 2 crimes dont make the things right either.

    It is very pertinent to see the notings of Justice Katju who has very clearly put on how easily dispensability of men in India is treated.
    Did anyone get out their homes protesting against 47 farmer deaths per day? NO ONE.
    Did a number of 2,50,000 farmer suicides get even a day of discussion in Parliament? NO.
    Did India care or sign any online petition protesting suicide committed by married men in India (65000 per year)? NO.
    Did India care about men fighting on borders, laying their lives for protection of country? NO.
    Did India care about men doing hazardous jobs and getting killed trying to feed their families? NO.

    Moreover, the very day this gangrape news flashed in Delhi, a news of a Husband being chopped off into 11 pieces by his wife also flashed in Mumbai but India, as expected, played ignorant.

    With such kind of uproar on politically correct topics, even Judiciary comes under pressure to deliver quick decisions (may be forced to give wrong judgments too) just because India feels that.

    Sad state of citizens who have selective appetite for Justice.

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  45. ye badi badi batein kewaldusaron ke bachchon ke sath hue apraadh par nikalti hain.Jab apane pe gujarati hai . tab pata chalata hai. Thoo thoo...

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  46. Aur ye shor kewal ek din ka gussa nahin hai. Ye kai dino ka gussa hai. atah shreemaan se niwedan hai ki apani aap ko loktantrik darshane ke bajay maa- bahaon kee surakchha ke baare mein tippanni karate to aap ki izzat samaj mein aur badh jaati. puri namrata ke sath kahata hunMaaf kijiyega par aapse aisi tippani ki ummeed nahi thi. Jab ya pura desh is ghrinit aur nrishans kritya ki awahelana kar raha hai to aap media ko seekh dene mein lage hain. Sayad media mein mein agar ye case na aata to, CPC delhi ghar mrin aaram farama rahe hote aur court sarkar aur police par tippanni karke ya fatkar laga kar barso case chalata rahega. Kyonki sabke paas apane bahane hain. Aur main puchhata hun ki ab nahi to kab bolenge hum?ya apane fayade ke liye domocratic hone ka dikhawa karte rahenge. Nyay ki baat theek hai par der se mila nyay anyay se kam hai kya? ye media ka heen Halla bol hai ki is maamle mein sarkar aur sansad itani chusht hai, warna aam logo ki peeda sunane aur samajhane ki furshat kise hai?

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  47. At least by this gov will weke up.
    if chennls are showing this 24/7 then it's their real job not talking about cricket and all dabba stuff. if they awering peopls then i appriciate.
    this episode is very tragic.

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  48. Un ko kya jo ho rahe,Rape katal din raat.
    Jin ki'sada'hai safety,SPG ke haath
    sada ambalvi

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  49. Yes Mr katju , You r saying the the true things but i want to say u , y are a chairman of electronic media, how u not raised that types of problem through media.that all the problem is exited in india but the main source of problem in India is population and in last all political leader know about that the problem but not raised by any political party.Due to that all Indians feel shameful in the front of foreigner.

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  50. Dear Sir

    Your version is unquestionable but it was not the time to raise other problems in a way to shadow the rape case.

    Basanta
    Nepal



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  51. Understood! You have been a Judge and that's the best you could come up with. You have to be inclined towards 'benefit of doubt' than be headstrong about handing out sentences. That's your job, I understand. And it keeps the country in balance or we might end up being just like those Gulf countries.

    But Sir, I would still recommend Capital Sentence!

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  52. Imagine, If this type of disgusting incident would have been with females in your home, What would be your reaction?

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  53. Hi,
    Everyone is aware about the social problems you have discribed. They have been looked at by our government and in a population of 150cr, plus corrupt politicians it is not an easy task to bring the change overnite, However, the crime which happened in Delhi was a real grave one and you know, sometimes, such hypes may ignite fire for a change. They are shouting and screaming in LS and RS, I'm happy that they are united for a good cause, else, most of the times they are busy throwing mud on each other.

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  54. Dear Justice Katju,I think you have missed the point about the hue and cry being raised. It is not due to the rape act per se but the brutality,cruelty and sadistic way in which it was done - ruptured intestines,private parts,injuries to the body by iron rod etc. As a common citizen my blood boils at this act.Whether it happened in rural or urban India, my reaction would be same.This is not to say that India does not have other problems.But let's not distract from the brutality of the incident.

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  55. change your thinking sir,,

    change ur mind..

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  56. sir, firstly i am proud and happy that an eminent person like you is so concerned and expressive about problems facing our society.I agree with your view that there should not be a so much of hue and cry over this incident when there a much more graver problems facing the nation-farmer's sucides,child malnourishment etc..the emphasis should be on preventing such incidents so our women can feel and be safe rather than on what type of punishment should be given...., at the same time the social as well as the print media should be highly condemened of having sold off their morals and subscribing to the greed of paid news by not highlighting questions of basic survival faced by our society...47 farmer's death avg per day and total amounting to more than 2,50,000deaths ......dismayed, shamed and frustrated...!!

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  57. Sir, what is your view on Sec 498A. It appears that there is a lot of abuse, but I would like to know from you what you experience and opinion is. Thanks

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  58. WE SHOULD TRY TO FIND TO CHECK OUT THE MAIN AUTHORITY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.........WHY SUCH CRIME EVER HAPPEN,.........

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  59. Mr. Katju is correct, media should focus on issue not incident. Many henious crimes ignored by media mostly from remote parts of country.

    Media do not react on 25000 people killed in Bhopal in 1984 and no body really punished. But it spend all energy if handful of people get impacted in some minor incident.

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  60. You are correct, Delhi and Mumbai is only India and Neta/media only open mouth for these two cities. Rest of India still far from independence.

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  61. Dear Katju ji,

    Have a meeting with parents of girl and you will have all the answers to your discussion.

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  62. Hos is your comments different from for example hindus while condemning terrorist acitivities end their statement with 'AT THE SAME TIME' and blaming some past incidents or some government actions as the cause for the violence? when there is an 'AT THE SAME TIME' it immediately removes the seriousness of the issue. Agreed that there are more serious issues all around, but come on, what is the solution? Do you have an immediate solution. If you are so annoyed that this issue is getting too much attention, I think it would better suit your position to keep quiet rather than open your mouth and hurt the victims. isn't it exactly the thinking of these perverts while committing the crime that this is only a minor incident and would not garner much attention. And you want exactly the same?

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  63. I agree to Your Lordship's opinion dat d incident got media's attention owing to its being an urban one. But I do not feel that this is d occasion to try and remind ppl dat its not d only problem b4 d country bcoz this is a spontaneous reaction of d ppl as almost 50% of d total population of d country r d potential victims to this crime.And so,making such a statement which causes ppl to compare (deliberately or unintentionally) btwn two separate nd unconnected incidents is uncalled for nd also indirectly,albeit unintentionally, is demeaning to d victim , considering d tyming of d statement

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  64. I think the only solution to the main problem of law and order is to remove vip status of all politicians, bureacrats and judges. No govt houses, no servants, no drivers, no official vehicles, no special security thats it.country will benefit immensely. Think over. Vip status is the root of many evils especially law and order.

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  65. Incidents will make issues !!! and its ridiculous when you honorable Justice says its not a big deal ???? i mean its not big thing because it happened with a girl who was not your relative.....She is not my relative too but still i seriously condemn .... shame.....
    I am completely disagree....agar aapko koi aur issues ki baat karni hai toh karo na kisne mana kiya hai.. we all stand for the right thing... but you cant compare issues with other....

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  66. People on places of power are snobs, may it be bureaucracy, judiciary or politics. They use their intellectual capital to meet their own selfish ends. Barring Arvind Kejariwal & Co. none of so called intellectual elites have challanged the ruling & political class for the socio-economic stagnation of the country . It is easy to report and show coffee house concern. Let us say 90% this class are bone less chickens

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  67. A moth back in Bahadurganj, Bihar a man has been arrested, he has sexually assaulted a couple of dozen women and slaughtered five of them after raping them up.....has the inhabitants of this gr8 nation cried in the same way? Has the nationwide media taken the subject at all? Even the local media felt bashful to follow that news candidly ...is n't it a big humiliation to those victims ......lets revolutionize the definition of rape to safe guard human right activists and media persons of Delhi, let’s say “A rape in Delhi is a rape only.....”

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  68. Honorable Justice Katju,

    Your suggestion that we should "not hype the Delhi gangrape incident as if it is the only problem in the country", is little confusing. Surely, it is not 'the' problem but at the same time it is 'a' problem. 'Maintaining balance' suggest that we should consider it just a problem among many and go our way of not doing anything about it just like what we do about farmer suicides. I believe that we should have similar "aakrosh" (gangrape case) toward each and every problem of our society including crime against women and other serious problems. We take pride in saying that we are 'Indian' first but reality is that one is male or female first then lower caste or upper caste then Marathi or Gujarati or Behari then South Indian or North Indian then perhaps a 'cynical' Indian. I think most of us don't believe in the idea of India from their heart that's why we don't have respect for the people of this country. This is worse in case of women.

    With Regards,

    Yashpal

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    1. Till recently the President of India was a woman - Pratibbha Patil

      The leader of the largest political party and supposedly most powerful politician is woman - SOnia Gandhi

      The leader of the opposition is a woman - Sushma Swaraj

      The leader of the Loksabha is a woman - Meira Kumar

      The leader and chief minister of Delhi is a woman - Sheila Dikshit

      And for women the case is worse, why? Because it is true...95% of violent crimes committed in this country are against men - think of a disabled men, a young boy, an old aged father, an old aged brother, men doing graveyard time jobs....Is there any reporting happening by the visual media in anyway?

      As per Justice Katju, 47 farmers are suiciding per day. Is there any reporting by CNN-IBN, TimesNOW, NDTV on this continuously....

      Per year over 60,000 men commit suicide - 165 per day. Is there any reporting by the media?

      NO. They will never report. You see who looks good on the panel disucssion, and who brings more TRP - a Raveena Tandon or a Arun Shourie?

      You raised a right question. It is not India as a whole we think and who divided it.

      Quota for women, quota for SC/ST, Quota for OBC, Gender Biased laws, divisive regional issues....

      It starts much early. See the issues young man in totality and see how divide and rule in every form is ruling this country...with a few crooked politicians, a few rogue feminists, a few professional media crooks and of course the corrupt system...

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  69. justice katju, ur views on gangrape case is absolutely right. in our country people are very much sensitive! so sensitizing news easily sensitizing the people!

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  70. we can't keep mum on this issue jus for a reason other issues are not raised in parliament.. this is a time for discussion of a very heinous crime committed in the Capital of India itself.. and it will not be appropriate if we raise rest 1000 issues at this time of moment.. When the question was regarding punishing Kasab , people were concerned with tat only and not with tat of education ,malnutrtion etc. So, this time also the issue is the rape which was nowhere limited to rape.. so , the concern should not be diverted to other issue at this point of time.. i feel it will be better to finish one issue which nation wants to be settled down first as People seeking justice and protesting through out d nation r not fools.. ANd many people who tink tat issue may not have been raised if committed at any small village or rural area must clear their view by stating tat .. do they want justice as such issue is raised now..????? o shud we again sit like statutes at our homes???????

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    1. I totally agree with your view point, Pallavi.Below is my comment for Justice Katju.If Law Enforcement agencies failed to do justice then surely sensible people will come forward and do justice.

      So Hope this time our slow legal system won't disappoint us.

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  71. Dear Sir,

    An unfortunate incident shook the Nation. Noble soul is trembled after hearing brutal crime. Hope everyone is aware that Violence against a woman is violence against humanity too. You can judge a society by the way it treats its women. Shame to law enforcement agencies, they are not working appropriately with true spirit and failed in discharging their duties.It is unfortunate if provision of life imprisonment is mentioned only in our legal system for rapist. We demand death sentence in Public for rapists. All accused don’t deserve life after such a barbarous crime. Day is not far when sensible people will come forward and gives their verdict by setting an example against ubiquitous social cruelties persisting in country.Other Points raised by you in the post are genuine.

    So please try to understand human feelings.

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  72. Dear Sir,
    I have great respect for you, but I am completely disagree you opinion given above.sir, you always talk about our rich culture and tradition, have you forgotten this sentence' yatra pujyantay stri tatra ramyantyay devta( where women is worshiped, resides God there). whatever media is making hue and cry is really worth of. In my opinion rape is more nefarious crime than murder. it is sheer violation of fundamental right, Article 21(right to live). Supreme court it self in its various judgement interpreted that Article 21 is not merely right to live, but right to live with dignity. After being raped one has to go through severe mental agony throughout her life, no body will marry her, one can not lead a normal life.The culprit of such crime should be given harsh exemplary punishment, so that no body will dare to commit such act.

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    1. Sumit, your quote is correct. To ensure this is practiced, many values, rules and relationships were suggested. Male and female relationship is beyond sex. But today they are reduced to pleasure and sex. India is outraged by this incident. But why it is not outraged when women are addressed 'hot', 'sexy' in media. Why it is not outraged when skin show was glorified. Why it is not outraged by the ads where women tore clothes and jump on men. Sheer hypocrisy.....

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      The irony is that newspapers like ToI which provided a 6 page coverage to the incident yesterday are front runner in this trend. Just in the previous week they were running a series of articles about people who should get A life which included those who go through all the pain to file a petition against vulgar and cheap portrayal of women. Also reminds me of a recent mobile phone advertisement in the same newspaper where a male student, who, when sees his conservative looking female teacher through his phone camera finds her quite 'sexy'. Two days later the same newspaper was condemning a Kochi school because the administration there had directed its women teachers to wear long aprons as the students there, were taking their pictures and posting them on social networking sites etc.
      I was outraged when last year a hoarding related to some deodrant was adorning the prime location at Rajiv Chowk metro station in Delhi having a tagline something like 'presenting six inch large... which men cant miss and women cant resist'.

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  73. Regardless of the truth behind your points, to express those points by bringing in this horrible crime, you have done injustice to the victims, and to the point you are raising.

    This is a grave disregard to the issue at hand, and shows your utter misunderstanding of common sense.

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  74. I express a deep anguish over such people who use internet as a means to vent out their anger over people who talk logic .
    Those using argumentum ad hominem and insult against him must know that he is Press council of India's chairman and former supreme court Judge . he is all for democracy and criticism but he is not for insult , if he wanted all you people can be tracked and punished under relevant section of Indian penal code but he is benevolent enough to let you guys get away with it .
    Do you guys have no self respect ,sham or an ounce of respect for no other than your own selfish self righteousness ? This man is old enough to be your grand father .

    Your Eminence , you are exactly right . Society must be balanced . Its choosy , picky and childish .
    I am with you , and I am sure many other like minded individuals are with you too . You have always been at forefront of equality and justice as I can say for a fact from your Judgments and attitude .

    Great respect for you .

    Kind regards ,
    Lucius Warcry .

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      let me narrate a quick fable from Mahabharath.
      Pandavas and Kouravas are young. A criminal case comes to the court of Dritharaashtra.
      Four men belonging to different castes viz Brahmin, Vysya, Warrior and Sudra together kill a person.
      They admit their crime. Bhishma first asks Suyodhan about punishment.
      Suyodhan recommends capital punishment to Sudra, jail to warrior, fine to vysya. And he want Brahmin to let go.
      Now Bhisma asks Yudhister for the same who reverses the punishments for Brahmin and Sudra.
      Bhishma asks for explanation. Sudra was ignorant where as Brahmin is learned and knows that murder is sin. Yet he resorted to killing.

      Inference: learned people have to be more careful in making judgements and should live up to their learning.

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    3. Lucius20 ,you bloody mongrel pimp of powerful elite class , I dare you and your joker Katju granda pa to track and arrest me and all others who have scolded this joker katju uncle.please note down my address F-312 , IRWO Classics, Rail Vihar , Sector 57, Gurgaon, Haryana

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  75. With due respect to your observations and concerns. I would still like to mention that this incident is not a problem but a slap on the existence of and evolution of human race. You are talking about the concerns that come with the societal bluilding blocks and surely need to be looked upon. However, this issue highlights the basic DNA gone wrong of the system where everyone can do and get away with whatever they want. It is not the doing, but the intent of this act that is worth fighting against and is being at least brought up by the people after one too many incidents are taking over.

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  76. Dear Justice Katju,

    Please allow me to express my disappointment and my disagreement with the public stand you have taken through your website on this issue. I am certain the brutality of this crime has not left you undisturbed, but while the same brutality has silenced me with grief, leaving me with no words to respond on any platform with outrage, criticism or support for that poor girl who could go on to become a doctor yet if she survives this... your stand has compelled me to find my voice and address you as directly as I can.

    The inappropriateness of leveling this issue with the many other ills that plague our nation to begin with disturbs me deeply at a very fundamental level. In the face of such overwhelming outrage, the issue deserves all the attention it is being given and more. Dousing it with cold water is a very dangerous thing to do at this stage. The outrage is not just a product of the disturbance of urban society’s rather de-sensitized sensibilities, but a clear sign of the collective simmering below the surface. Had you missed that ?

    I cannot stress enough why this is simply NOT the right stage for you to be drawing attention to the other illnesses within our nation because you are inadvertently displaying an apathy, and giving cues to a diseased government and political body to follow suit in what it would be more than happy to sweep below the carpet if it would allow them to go back to filling their coffers. Rape and gender abuses are not endemic to Delhi. But if after all the efforts by the people and news organizations to draw attention to the grievous issue of RAPE has failed with not just the reoccurrence but the rampant rise of it, then we have been failed. By the system and the people who uphold the law. The scale of the crimes will continue to rise in brutality until strong legislation is brought to pass and strict measures are implemented to prevent the abuse of not just women, but all age groups and genders.

    Today, the people who turn into abusers do not fear the law. The assault on this young girl is proof of it. By never having crushed it, it is no more a system that protects the people from such gender based crimes. It is now a system whose efforts are preserving this state of lawlessness. Inherently fueled by an apathy that has pervaded through most sections of society through daily life in India that sees the melting of so many atrocities/issues (mis)managed by the people who have been elected to public office. A state of existence so potent it has become a sub-culture of the Indian mindset to not be affected by any injustice unless it approaches a tipping point.

    Your Eminence, please do not contribute or be a part of this sub-culture however unwittingly. You are far too important for that.

    If the brutality of this incident is not close enough to home, then how much closer does it need to get ???? Do we comprise of so many insensitive figures that we must always approach a disastrous tipping point before any change can be made ?? And even then it may not happen. In an age of unparalleled urban and social networking, a scale never before witnessed in history, the connectedness of a nation should be able to enhance and reinforce the awareness and change that can be ushered in to progress our nation. And I’m sure you know, your website has already established an unquestionable place within that framework.

    We can only look to eminent figures like you who hold an integral place within the legal and the judiciary to establish and drive the changes needed. Where we as members of the public may not be able to reach. As chairman of the PCI, I would like to see you make the best of the momentum generated thus far and the machine that has started running to safeguard future victims from such nightmares. Don’t we all deserve the protection of the country we serve. And can’t we tackle each issue with the balanced mind and the justice it deserves without it being overshadowed by other issues.

    My sincerest respect.

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    1. I completely agree with your post, I was so disappointed to read his views on this subject. As for life imprisonment, if a bunch of beasts can violate a woman with an iron rod, so brutally that her intestines come out with it, is life imprisonment even close to justice? How is this even minutely comparable to the "other problems" he is talking about.

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  77. Respected justice sir,
    The angry mobs and various parlamentarians of India mobilised recently against the delhi gang rape ,as if this is the first such incident reported in the pre and post independent India.Where were they ,when there were similar incidents that took place in India generally and Delhi particularly.If the aim of these angry mob is to get the justice for the victim of the delhi rape,then i also expect the same reaction in yet another rape incident where ,an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district.
    The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”In the delhi rape case, People are driven by sensationalisation and media trial,this is not democracy.

    To get ,their TRP increased medias are reporting every minute details regarding the victim.Why not the same emphasise is given to rape incident ,that happened to a dalit girl in bihar.At the same time if the media could catch the attention of people of India in the recent incident like rape,then why can't it do the same for various social issues that are eating up our country?

    Media has the power to channelise the energy of the people and to use it in the intended way and it is up to the media to take the correct course of action.

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  78. Hue and cry is required for rape and brutalities of this Delhi incident. Today people are making hue and cry because media is covering it immensely. The disturbing fact is, media not at all covering rape and brutalities happened elsewhere around the same time this incident happened. An 8 yr old girl gang raped and brutally murdered, victim had wound marks on all over her body which was found floating in a pond in Bihar. Many people here in their responses to Justice Katju have mentioned that had the Delhi victim been from Mr. Kaju's family, he wouldn't have said this. For a moment imagine that the Bihar victim from your family. How would you feel when you see a similar incident is being covered in such a manner where the whole nation is fighting for, getting best of the treatment and best of the coverage in all forms of media, but no one talks about your sister from Bihar, no one knows, no one cares. This is the point Mr. Katju has brought. General people like you and me may not be aware of that but media knows all incidents. It picks up selectively. So everyone is becoming a brother or father to this Delhi girl but just for a moment become a father or brother of that Bihar girl you will get your answers. The hue and cry should not be limited to making Delhi safe but the anger and outrage should be channeled to getting everything done that makes a women safe and respected all over the country.

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  79. Dear Sir,
    Iam not fully agree with you because it is not only RAPE CASE . If you getting exactly condition of the girl then it is case of RAPE & ATTEMPT TO MURDER . So in my opinion if the girl died then the punishment of death is right.

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  80. Dear sir.,
    I was an ardent follower of your blog and read your comments at least 10 times to get the real understanding of your view and always an admirer of your views and stands.. but this time shocked to read your view.
    Request you to review you this blog and comments once again and if you don't take this back you will loose atleast 50 per cent of
    your followers and I will be one of them. I know this doesn't matter to you but we have lost our guide.

    I have enough reasons to prove that your viewis not justified but at the same time I know you know each of them and also can't win an argument with you.

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  81. How many of you know this?

    Those term Delhi as rape capital must know:
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

    DEFINITION: Number of sexual assaults recorded by police in that country per 100,000 population.

    India 1.7 per 100000 population.
    http://www.causes.com/causes/7710-stop-abuse-of-all-women-and-children/actions/52809
    Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.
    In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault. (NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
    The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.).

    As per crime bure report about 70% found not guilty and more than 90% are mutual physical relation converted to rape cases? Where the real rapist police can't catch, send every tom/dick or harry as rapist in false and fabricated cases.

    Some recent news :
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Woman-to-pay-Rs-50L-for-accusing-actor-of-rape/articleshow/17563842.cms To stop the false and fabricated rape cases, along with fine need the jail terms as this should be termed as legal terrorism. Other wise the day is not too far when any ram, shyam, jadu or madhu will be termed as rapist.

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-17/india/32713694_1_district-court-delhi-court-real-victims
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/take-action-against-girl-for-filing-false-rape-case-hc-to-cops/931412
    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=766976
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jan/28/false-rape-complaint-prosecution
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Court-rap-for-filing-false-rape-case/Article1-879881.aspx
    http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3627623
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-19/india/34583693_1_kishore-samrite-gajendra-pal-singh-rahul-gandhi

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  82. Crime is a crime, in the same day a husabnd had been cut in 11pcs, but no media, MP or society shown any concern for such news. I had wittness worse crime than this, but the silence and no concern for those crime, make me pised off , why this double standarad? Does the crime done by a women to cut husband in 11 pcies is less crime? If so sorry , i hate those people who think the same is less crime and if some one feel the same is not less crime, why media and Mp is silent? can any one answer me? Pick and choose is not acceptable. Our rape law is much strict , life impresiment and yes if the victim lsot life can be hanged, why get fooled by media bised view by some male haters agenda? Do you all forget Dhanjay of kolkata was hang to death for rape case? Half knowledge is always dangarous.

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    1. I agree my friend . There are delusional bunch in population a lot . we must remain objective at all times .

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  83. Sir, The sad part of all this is that in a couple of weeks this bestiality and incident would be consigned out of the media and the victim and her hapless parents will be left to bear the wound.


    The wide publicity and angst this horrible incident has evoked must certainly be also shown every day in Indian life. But the resignation and blinkers we wear as citizens do not help.

    Coming to the subject, Sir, don't you agree that something is seriously amiss amongst us and the society? In Kerala there are dime a dozen reports of abuse and violation of young girls even by their fathers.Remember the State claims 100 percent literacy and enlightened inhabitants. And then the crowd that gather at police stations and Court premises when the hapless victims are brought there and the jeer and lecherous comments they pass all adds insult to injury.What is wrong with us?

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  84. Every news channel shows only bollywood 'girls'. A performance like 'dirty picture' gets national award. An ad shows a newly wed girl running away from first night for body spray.... Are they not insult to character of Indian women? The idiot who kept quiet for them should continue to shut their mouth even now.....
    Mr Katju, it is not good enough call others idiots and write length opinions. Do justice to your present position. Work with government and bring back some sense into media. Gul Panag, Priaynka chopra what stand they have in society that their opinions flashed in media. But someone like Harish Salve is not even heard? Disgusting!

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  85. Justice Katju Shame on you ,Old Man please note you have become complete mad ,that's why you are always talking rubbish .Have you ever thought why you could not become chief justice of India. You managed to become High court and Supreme court justice only due to your proximity with Nehru Family beginning from your grandpa Mr KN Katju former CM of Madhya Pradesh.I have watched many chief justices of India talking which you will not become in your next 7 life's , like Justice JS Verma , Justice Kapadia, Justice Venkatachallaiya etc no one is snobbish like you . Your big mouthing shows that you are not a good person by heart and have same landlord / autocratic type mentality. Everyone is Allahabad High court and Supreme court knows that to handle your arrogant behavior people use to get work done from you by sending it through lady lawyers. What your henchmen are threatening,I dare you to arrest me .Shame on you had it happened with your daughter Van...a then your response would have been same .Shame Shame you agent of Nehru/Gandhi family ,Those who want to reply me come to my blog as will not read this worst article again .Thanks Dr Nutan Thakur. http://drnutanthakur.sulekha.com/

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  86. "I only request people to maintain a balance and not hype the Delhi gangrape incident as if it is the only problem in the country."

    what? are you mad? if it was your own daughter ,then? would you call for balance? Moron!! Now go on telling the press that your were not correctly understood..!! Idiot!!

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  100. Respected Justice Katju,

    I hope you are reading responses here. I think you have got a taste of MAJORITY opinion, Freedom of expression. Do you see how easy it is to instill a completely irrational thought in vast majority in the name of HUMANITY? Almost every one opposing your view. Know why? Not that they have real sympathy or empathy with the girl. They are already on the bandwagon of humanity that does promotes only individualism. Second the celebrities of the society, who!, Mr. and Mrs. Kareen Kapoor, Priaynka Chopra, (maybe Sunny Leone too), SRK, Sekhar Kapoor, Sania Mirza .... denounced it and demanding death for the rapists....
    Mad Mad Mad way of 'consent generation'.

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    1. Yes the victims must be punished by hang up in public..
      Tell to mr katji that if thiis happen with ur family than what u should do...

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  104. http://www.firstpost.com/india/justice-katju-you%E2%80%99re-not-an-editor-and-certainly-not-god-120451.html “Indian media is very often playing an anti-people role. It often diverts the attention of the people from the real problems which are basically economic. (About) 80 percent people are living in horrible poverty, unemployment, facing price rise, health care (problems),” said Justice Markandey Katju, chairman of the Press Council of India, in an interview with Karan Thapar on CNN-IBN.

    Of all the statements made by Katju, this one is most alarming. If the media, in their wisdom, choose to focus on certain areas more than some others, it is of no consequence to the Press Council. It is, simply, an editorial call. It is a call, which in the long run, will be judged not by Katju, but by readers and advertisers.

    The very thought that Katju is asking for more powers, which might include, by his statement, the power to decide what is newsworthy and what is not, is, at best, one that will disturb media owners and journalists alike, and, at worst, frighten them.

    Justice Markandey Katju. Screengrab/ibnlive

    It gets worse when Katju speaks of the quality of journalists. Describing journalists in general as having “very poor intellectual level”, Katju called for the electronic media to be brought under the purview of the council. He went on to say in a television interview that he had a very poor opinion of most people in the media. “The general rut is very low and I have a poor opinion of most media people. Frankly, I don’t think they have much knowledge of economic theory or political science or literature or philosophy. I don’t think they have studied all this,” says The Times of India quoting Katju.

    So what should journalists read, Justice Katju? More importantly, why not share your opinion on the quality of judges and lawyers, your original chosen profession? Do they have enviable knowledge on areas such as economic theory, political science, literature and philosophy?

    Have they even studied law? Could one describe the average judge in India as having ‘very poor intellectual level’?

    What has caused Justice Katju to go so far off the rails? Many have argued, including Firstpost, that the electronic media needs to be brought under the ambit of the Press Council, which should be reconstituted to become a Media Council. However, that belief was with the understanding that the objectives and aims of the new Council would remain the same – the only change would be that new media, such as TV, would be under the umbrella.

    Perhaps Justice Katju needs to revisit the establishment of the Press Council.

    When the Press Council was formed, in July 1966, the objectives of the Council were defined as under:

    • to help newspapers to maintain their independence;
    • to build up a code of conduct for newspapers and journalists in accordance with high professional standards;
    • to ensure on the part of newspapers and journalists the maintenance of high standards of public taste and foster a due sense of both the rights and responsibilities of citizenship;
    • to encourage the growth of a sense of responsibility and public service among all those engaged in the profession of journalism;
    • to keep under review any development likely to restrict the supply and dissemination of news of public interest and importance;
    • to keep under review such cases of assistance received by any newspaper or news agency in India from foreign sources, as are referred to it by the Central Government.

    More details here.

    On the formation, the Press Council, of which Justice Katju is now chairman, said. “Where the norms are breached and the freedom is defiled by unprofessional conduct, a way must exist to check and control it. But, control by government or official authorities may prove destructive of this freedom. Therefore, the best way is to let the peers of the profession, assisted by a few discerning laymen to regulate it through a properly structured representative impartial machinery. Hence, the Press Council.”

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  111. The body is a Council, not a dictatorship. It requires the ‘peers of the profession’ assisted by ‘discerning laymen’. It also calls for ‘impartial’ machinery.

    But look what Justice Katju wants: “I want powers to stop government advertisements.” No, Justice Katju, you cannot have that. Nowhere in the conceptualisation of the remit of the Press Council was power over advertising seen.

    Justice Katju’s statements and mental make-up do not suggest that he is a ‘peer of the profession’, ‘a discerning layman’ or part of any ‘impartial machinery’.

    They suggest that he is making a mockery of the Council and its aims, that he wants to be the sole arbiter of what is good and bad for the citizens of the country and that he wants to leverage advertising spends as both carrot and stick.

    No, Justice Katju, you cannot have any of that; none of this is in the scope of the Press Council.

    Unless, of course, you change the scope of the Press Council.

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  112. Lori . G ( Nashville,TN)20 December 2012 at 13:19

    Such incidents will continue to happen in third world nations like India.

    Indians do NOT associate themselves with HINDOOISM . They associate themselves with their caste & community . INDIA should therefore be divided into a number of smaller countries based on caste & community. That is the only way for third world countries like India & Pakistan to make progress.

    Pakistan will disintegrate within the next 5 years & India should start it's own process of disintegrating sooner than later . The US and UK will be glad to provide the required assistance so as to prevent any bloodshed during the process.

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  114. Uncle ji.....kis balance ki baat kar rahe hain aap.Bahut balance ho gya.Kabhi to koi kaam hone dijiye.bahut galat timing hai aapki.This is genuine anger,frustration,revulsion at a heinous crime.Ghatiya administrations agar aise hi nikamma kaam kaengi to yehi hoga k logon ko sadkon pe aana parega,jo ki ho raha hai.Arey kisi burai k khilaf to uthne do aawaz......

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  115. जब किसानों के आत्महत्या से जुड़ी खबर चलेगी तो आप ही कहेंगे कि साबित करो कि आत्महत्या करने वाला किसान था या नहीं...

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  116. SALA KATJU, APNI MAA KO EK GHANTE CHOD KE AUR CHUT ME SARIYA DAL KE DEKHO,PHIR APNI MA KO MERE PAS BHEJ DENA.APNI BETI KA PHOTO DIKHA DO.SALA CHODNE KA MAN HO RAHA HAI

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  117. Todays news :
    8-year-old Dalit girl raped, killed in Bihar : In yet another shocking reminder of the routine violence suffered by women, an eight-year-old Dalit girl was allegedly raped and murdered in Bihar’s Saharsa district. The body was found in a canal on Tuesday morning, a day after she went missing from home.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/8yearold-dalit-girl-raped-killed-in-bihar/article4218550.ece

    The victim’s uncle said no top official had come to visit the family. “Only one inspector came to investigate. If someone is raped in Delhi, the nation is outraged. If someone is raped here, no one knows about it.”

    The same question Justice Katju asked. Ironic indeed.

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    1. ****MUST READ****

      Narrativizing Rape and the Politics of Outrage

      I think it's fair to say that many of us feel great revulsion and anger at the sexual abuse of the young woman in Guwahati. And rightly so. It's frightening how despite many efforts, a large section of the population still justify rape and harassment by blaming it on clothes or the 'moral character' of the women.

      http://beta.bodhicommons.org/article/narrativizing-rape-and-the-politics-of-outrage

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    2. ****MUST READ****

      Time to be ashamed

      Perhaps the real tragedy we must contemplate, as we consider the story of the young woman who now lies in a Delhi hospital bed battling for her life after being brutally beaten and gang-raped Sunday night, is this: in six months or less, she will have been forgotten.
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/time-to-be-ashamed/article4214334.ece

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  118. ****MUST READ****

    ****Rape and the crisis of Indian masculinity*****

    Even as the world remains shocked and horrified by the gunning down of 20 little children in Newtown, Connecticut, we need to turn some of that shock and horror toward our own selves. The gang rape in the capital of a paramedical student, who lies in critical condition in hospital, should more than just outrage us. Rape is not simply about law and order, or about deranged individuals. Nor is the problem going to be solved by more laws, more police on our streets, more CCTV cameras on our buses or stiffer sentences for rapists. The gang rapes that are occurring with alarming regularity must compel us to reflect upon who we are as a society.

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      Rape and the crisis of Indian masculinity
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/rape-and-the-crisis-of-indian-masculinity/article4214267.ece

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  119. PLEASE ASK YOUR MOTHER,WIFE AND DAUGHTER SO THEY AGREE ON YOUR STATEMENT OR NOT ?

    AND IF Section 376 Indian Penal Code IS JUST A LIFE TIME JAIL THAN WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO KILLING A RAPIST AND MAKE A EXAMPLE TO OTHER CRIMINALS ALSO.

    YOUR STATEMENT IS SHOWING YOU ARE FEEL OK WITH THIS KIND OF CRIME AND DONT WANT TO DO ANYTHING REGARDING THIS KIND OF ACT.

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  120. M. KATGU NE JO BAAT UTHAI HAI USME DUM HAI ROJ VIDARBHA AND ANDHRA PRADESH KE KISAN MAR RAHE HAI USKE BAARE ME KOI KYU NAHI BOLTA SAALE SAB HARAMI SANSAD ME BAITHE HAI BHUN DAALO SUB HARAMIYO KO

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    1. kisan ki bat alag hai,balatkar ki bat alag hai.

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  121. Dear Katju,

    please ask the 90% of the idiots you talked about somewhere else. 90% of them will agree with your opinion on this matter.

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  122. Repected justice Katju,There are some times when people loose there clam and this that time we all know that the rapes are recuured in our country and in rural areas the rights of women are in stake and there is no machinery over there who spread the news properly,but a rape which is held in Delhi which is our Capital is totaly unbearable,rapes are recurs now and then in Delhi Rapist are now become so dare that they don't even care the law and order,I don't understand why our judiciary is frightend about the issue of the capital punishments these guys deserves death penalty, and I dot't understand why you compare it with the farmers suicide who said its not a problem? But why you quote all this in this time you ever entertained a comapny law citation in a crimianl case while that case is also cited bt hon'ble supreme Court so what is sense to quote a wrong thing in such asensible issue and now its time to hanged these men who commit such kind of henious crimes so with due regard sir just stand with the people of India and not think like a justice who is learned of law, just think like a common man.

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  123. I agree with you Mr Katju, that there is no need for capital punishment for rape. State or the court does not have a right to take a person's life, even that of a criminal.

    Life imprisonment - 20-25 years should be given for heinous crimes like rape. Harsh punishment, along with speedy justice system will deter a lot of people from committing such crimes.


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  124. There is no any hue and cry when on the same day a husband has been found murdered and cut into 11 pieces in Mumbai. Aren't we trying to be gender biased in raising issues? Millions of men are suffering due to false allegation of 498A, DV laws etc by wife, no one ever make point about it while supreme court has observed them as legal terrorism.

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  125. Dear Mr. Katju,

    You have mentioned the hue and cry regarding the Delhi case, but have you seen the voice of people protesting on the roads ? The anger in their voice is not only for the rapes in Delhi but it is for problems faced by any women in this country, India.

    Your last lines in the blog- 'Section 376 Indian Penal Code already provides for a maximum of life sentence for rape, and I see no reason why capital punishment should also be provided for it. '

    Why capital punishment is not necessary ? Even the life sentence is maximum, why not make it minimum punishment in rape cases ?

    All other points you have mentioned in your post about various other problems in our country, they are also important. But what is wrong if we solve the problems one by one. All problem can not be sorted at a time.

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  126. Dear Justice Katju, though it is important to widen the scope of public interest, but not too much to lose focus on an important issue entirely. Also though capital punishment may be debated, it sometimes doesn't justify the degree of punishment through comparing one crime with another; and if all it is necessary to do so, then Rape is the most heinous of all. And no body suggests that it is the Only problem, but part of a larger problem nonetheless.

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    1. Dear Abhishek, I know my view about the degree of heinousness of rape as a crime is very different. I think rape per se is not so serious or heinous in general. Although it could be heinous in many circumstances. My view is based upon the degree of suffering of victims of different characteristic. For example if a prostitute is raped, she would suffer less. If a 4 years old child is raped she would suffer more. If a married woman is raped she would suffer more than a prostitute but less than a 4 years old child. If a married woman is raped by her husband then her suffering would be less than the suffering if she is raped by her father or a brother. Thus in my view rape should have defined categories such as first degree rape or second degree rape and so on. The level of punishment should also differ depending upon the category of rape. I also consider that in most heinous form of rape castration as a punishment should also be considered and preferred in comparison to a long term jail.

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  127. The attitude yeh toh sab jagah hota hai is so typical of politicians and why not hue and cry each time , well what are the politicians of the country sitting around to do then . Capital punishment for rapists is reqd .

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  128. Katju Chacha and Lucius20 ,you bloody mongrel pimps of powerful elite class . get your daughter and sister gangraped then repeat the same preachings . I dare you and your joker Katju granda pa to track and arrest me and all others who have scolded this joker katju uncle.please note down my address F-312 , IRWO Classics, Rail Vihar , Sector 57, Gurgaon, Haryana

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  129. Mr. Katju , from some time yoour comments on different topics have been leathel retrogressive , and now on delhi gang rape issue it has been tooooo much ,every issue raised by you, on that sad time would be defined as convict supporting , whether how much you condemn it, but in any corner of your heart or mind you have a unconscious support to culprits OR you dont have any sensibility to the heart of the collective humanity, JUSTICE SHAME ON YOU THOUSANDS

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    1. What a stupid comment Sir! You've got his message in a negative way. How come Justice Katju can sympathise with these animals? I think you need to reassess your understanding of Mr. Katju.

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  130. Katju sir, it is true that the plight of women facing such harassment in rural areas is even more horrible. But something is better than nothing don't you think? Atleast this way I hope rapes get treated with an iron hand by our govt. So it is alright to have such hype is my humble opinion.

    http://unleash88.blogspot.in/

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  131. I strongly condemn this crime, and I am of the opinion that first we should calmly decide is it necessary to shoot the messenger or think on effective long term solutions without hurling swear words on Jstc. (Retd.) Mr. Katju. Many may disagree to his past/present public speaking but that does not mean the moment he speaks up his mind he should become spublic enemy # 1 and shot at! To understand Jstc. (Retd.) Mr. Katju’s wisdom one needs to go deep or reject him instead of engaging in some kind intelectual hate mails as many of you expressed in public space with him.

    May I ask each hate mail writer one simple question; what was the need to stop a empty private carriers and seek lift at 8 PM in a city where various public transports such as autos, red line / dtc buses are right there available at that very bust stand by two educated opposite gender friends? Is this called normal and should this be acceptable behaviour at around 8 PM by two city dwellers?

    The solution I offer across is first chalking out pan India gender sensitization as compulsory social awareness programs, funding of such programs r/w setting up fast track special Courts for such victims, State medical aid and efficient policing and active role from all members of society instead of mere lip service. The punishment is sufficient the fault line lies in its implementation by various Public Authorities.

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  132. Mr. Justice.... her updated condition - अगर वह बच भी जाती है तो उसे ताउम्र खाना खाने में दिक्‍कत होगी। "
    still its small thing for you right ????

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    1. I think you are contextualizing him wrong. He meant whether 250,000 is a small figure or not? Ofcourse , he is sympathizing with this victim but he is also pinpointing the problems of the "COUNTRY" as a whole which for the most part has been neglected.

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  133. I agree with what Justice Katju says. There is a very good law for punishing crime of rape. As Justice Katju said there are many farmers and children who are dying. There are no laws to protect them. There are many men who are committing suicide but no hue and cry for them ? Is it because they are men and so they can die ?

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  134. Hi sir,

    I will only ask one question if capital punishment is given to these guys then it will be lesson for others who actually thinks to do such kind of brutal act.

    Because it's the weakness of our system or loopholes in our law that
    such kind of people gets bailed easily and then for years the case will there in our court.

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  135. Dear sit...
    I m not agree with ur comment that victims should be punished only by life time jail.
    Because if we want to realize to people of india not to do such crimes than we must give that victims strong punishment, like hange them in public, or cut their body parts...than only other people get fear about this type of crime.
    Sir if this things happen with your family member than only u can know what punishment should be given..
    sorry it I hurts u.
    Regards

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    1. Why don't you do one thing, Mr. Katju.

      Let those rascals hands and legs be tied in handcuffs and chains. Just ask your mother, wife, sister or daughter to spend only five minutes with them in one room and then see their reaction. Ask those women what vibes they are getting in there and you will understand why people are on the road today. I know this comment will hurt you but sometimes Sir, come out of that black gown look at women's situation in the country. That girl could have been your daughter too.

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  136. Reading some of the comments that came from cowards posting as anonymous , I understand now why we have in India such violations of women.The gentry who raped this Blog medium with their uncivilized and uncultured profanity must look within themselves and recollect the pictures of their mothers and sisters.
    Ignoble.

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  137. I would like to differ from you a bit here Sir. Though other problems , as you've pointed some , are equally as important as any, the present case of a "Brutal" Gang rape of a young girl in a moving Bus in the "Capital" of "India" is 'The' platform for bringing much awaited amendments to the Constitution of India. Our Hindu tradition worships these females in the form of Goddess Durga, Laxmi , Saraswati, Kali , Parvati, etc. then how can it be that the person who dares to cause harm to her can escape with a "MILD" punishment of life imprisonment (although I highly doubt the conviction rate of rapists in even getting this "MILD" punishment). With such rapes occurring "many times a day" , we can conclude that 'pani sir se upad chad gaya hai'. We need to change & we need to act right now. A stricter punishment is "THE" starting point in creating a sense of 'protection' among the women. I think this time you've got it wrong when you say that 'don't hype' whereas this is the precisely "THE" point that we change from now. Had we listened to the voices of those rape victims in the past , we might have prevented such atrocities. I criticize severely the Indian Media in a broader sense that it stinks too much. But let's act right now for our women, who knows where a women is getting raped or gang raped or brutally tortured as I write this comment.

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  138. It is really a curse to our society. There should be a strong law like POTA against such brutal crime, not only to make a law but also its implementation should be applicable in right and proper direction.
    A culprit should think thousand times before committing such type of the heinous crime.

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  139. With due respect, can the legal system be expected to deliver justice in a time-bound manner? Why not fast track all such cases. Why not clear the massive backlog of cases? We are aware of all problem plaguing India. At present, we want THIS issue addressed.

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  140. Sir, at times I wonder that whenever something happens in any state which isn't ruled by congress, you immediately start attacking the state government for its failures. But when something happens in a congress ruled state, you either blame the bureaucracy and police machinery or try and subdue the importance of the matter. In this case you've done the latter.
    Are you pro-congress? If you are then please don't be afraid to express it.

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  141. I m asking for castration not capital punishment.

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  142. I m asking for castration not capital punishment.

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  143. Nobody panics unless something happens in an unplanned manner, Sire. A lot of rapes occur in a day. Everybody knows, yet nobody panics.

    If a nuclear weapon were used on a country, eliminating a population of a million people, and if a million people dies slowly of starvation, disease and lack of healthcare, guess the scenario inducing more panic. It is a simple matter, that only the extremest of incidents induce the extremest of measures. And only a revolution will change this. Mark my words.

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  144. After reading Mr Katju's "deflective" article above, I have come to the conclusion that he (Mr Katju) belongs to the 95% idiot-Indians (as defined by him a few days ago). All other atrocities are surely deplorable, but why Mr Katju should show off his being different by adding some other atrocities here. He also could have taken these issues as they occurred if he is a member of 5% non-idiot-Indians as he indirectly claims. Come on Mr Katju, just because you are an ex-Justice, it doesn't become you to deflect in this way the criticism against the said gang rape. Rape was bad enough, but using iron rods in the wrong places is worse than animal behaviour!

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  145. Why dont you write your opinion about gang rape when asked? Why you write 3 paras about vidarbha suicides, etc.?
    Let us ask you a few straight questions

    Why you don't go beyond "strongly condemn this crime" ?
    Why your opinion does not include stats about "Rapes in Delhi" and instead give other stats?
    As an ex-judge, will you ask a simple question to police on this incident?
    Do you have any constructive suggestion to avoid these type of crime?
    Who is writing your blog? Is it someone from Govt. of India?
    How long you think you can continue diverting attention from main issue/topic?



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