Well, going by the undertone of the article on Alice and now on the Riding Hood, should one infer that one must raise voice against all that is evil in toto?
I do not see or think that the voices that raise in anguish and protest against abuse of women are reticent or are callous to other evils that we are plagued with, like, corruption,poverty and hunger etc.
It is indeed sham and cruel triviality , blasphemy ,when well fed women from very elite background sit on a panel and come live on TV vociferously debating in English in their contrived Indian slang on rape and abuse of women.
But we have never heard from the voiceless many among women who silently endure abuse and atrocities. How many of the memsahibs who flourish in these TV programmes would treat their maid at home with respect and dignity that all living beings deserve?
Now the fact is Rape and abuse is a scourge of severe social proportion. So is poverty, hunger, and corruption and score of other evils..
Do you mean that the latter evils are of greater severity than rape? Or is some one there claiming that rape is the most serious and heinous vice?
Alice or Red Ridding Hood , the fact is that as a study states India is ranked 60 among 80 nations in choice of countries to live.
Complete nonsense piece. Every minute women are getting raped in this country. Fathers, brothers, sons are raping women in this country in their own homes. Women are not secure in their own homes, where they will be?
Jaya Bachhan was right when she said mothers, sisters, wives, daughters are being in their houses everyday. She even cried. What more can you think, a woman MP herself is saying this?
Yes, Woman need food, employment etc. But honor is far far more important than any of these things. What will a woman do with food or employment without honour?
Man like you, many men like you, are so insensitive to women's issues that it surprises me. India is full of these men. No wonder, with so many laws such as Dowry, DV Act, CrPc acts on women, women still feel so insecure in their own houses.
Read Sheil Bhatt's article on are men in india even belong to 21st century.
Every men should read on it and evaluate themselves. Now solider's issue have come up. Understand that they died and it should be protested. But these women issues are very very serious now. Men and women should act now.
आप ऐसा लिख रहें हैं , क्योंकि मीडिया ने रेप को पिछले एक महीने से मुद्दा बनाया है | मीडिया लिख और दिखा रही है क्योंकि रेप हो रहें हैं | संचार दृश्य सिद्धांत के Gestalt आधार पर कार्य करता है | चार बिंदु : : एक वर्ग की आकृति को प्रदर्शित करते हैं, क्योंकि हमने पूर्व में पढ़ा है | चार बिन्दुओं को वर्ग कहने की राय पूर्वाग्रह से ग्रसित है | जबकि ये चार बिंदु एक क्रास की आकृति को भी प्रदर्शित करते हैं | संचार पर मनोविज्ञान का गहरा प्रभाव पड़ता है | हम अपनी राय अपनी पूर्वधारणा के आधार पर रखते हैं | हमारी जनता उन ख़बरों को देखना चाहती है जिस पर वो अपनी राय रख सके | मीडिया और नेतागण भी उसी मुद्दे को उठाते हैं जिन पर वो अपनी राय रख सकें और हम आप भी यही करते हैं | मुद्दों को थोपा नहीं जा सकता, कोई व्यक्ति किसी घटना पर राय दे इसके लिये विवश नहीं किया जा सकता , जैसे किसी पुस्तक को जबरदस्ती नहीं पढाया जा सकता है | जो संवाद हो रहा है, वह केवल इस बुराई को समाप्त करने के लिए हो रहा है | और जैसा की जग जाहिर है की लोकतंत्र में बहुमत का क़ानून अल्पमत पर लागु होता है |
आपकी और हमारी चर्चा का विषय यह होना चाहिए की रेप क्यों होता है ? एक पुरुष की मानसिक स्थिति को यहाँ तक लाने वाले कारक क्या हैं ? क्या इन्टरनेट के माध्यम से विदेशों से भारत में पहुँचने वाली पाशविक यौन फ़िल्में जिम्मेदार हैं ? क्या दिल्ली या भारत के हर कोने में ऐसी यौन फिल्मों की सीडी , डीवीडी , धडल्ले से नहीं बिक रहीं हैं (पोलिस की जानकारी में खुले बाजार में) ? क्या आज के समाज में IPC की भूमिका साइबर यौन उत्प्रेरक वेबसाईट जैसे www.antarvasna.com , www.exbii.com, etc पर लागु नहीं होती ? क्या विज्ञापन में अश्लीता अपराध नहीं है, सौन्दर्य प्रसाधन के विज्ञापन आदि? क्या उपरोक्त चीजों पर नियंत्रण कर इन घटनाओं को रोका नहीं जा सकता | .......................................................................................... www.facebook.com/runjeetchauhan
I read the piece...you have again showed your male chauvinistic sides...
Is not the women who work at home all the time? Without them nothing will move.
The Hindu published an article here : http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/taking-the-aggression-out-of-masculinity/article4266007.ece
Simply they put vivekananda and said it is aggresive...such a hysteria over that....just one article and such hoo haa
Every day women are getting gang raped ...what a shame....no one so far talked on it...even the men who came to protest find excuses to grope many...check facebook how women were molested there also...the nation which can not stop it from these stupid men is bound to go down...as correctly said by sagarika ghose indian men are ugly and god would be in a bad mood when he created indian male...100% correct
i think you r not an indian male, if u r, think, that only u can stop this gang rape . How ? find the reason of rape. because nothing happen without any reason. once you find it. tell me................
Well, it might be incongruous to protest against poverty, farmer suicides and child malnutrition while public safety is at stake especially women, in the form of rapes. So when the time comes people will show same determination in the fight against other problems stated by you Sir. So I think you need not take such a parochial approach against those who protested at jantar-Mantar in Delhi.
Hunger is not OUR issue. We are fighting for OUR issue. What is wrong with it?
The poor of this country know how to fight for their own issues. For 50+ years, we endured the crappy politicians they send with their disastrously populist policies. %*#&)%!#@&*
Justice Katju, I understand that you are talking of whole systemic failure, which needs multifarious approach, Ok Fine, done. But do you also mean that Hood had the bad experience in the 'forest'? Does 'forest' stand as Delhi, India in your article? if yes, I undertand that lawlessness and anarchy is characteristic to jungles, thence you story is justified. Ciao!
Well, going by the undertone of the article on Alice and now on the Riding Hood, should one infer that one must raise voice against all that is evil in toto?
ReplyDeleteI do not see or think that the voices that raise in anguish and protest against abuse of women are reticent or are callous to other evils that we are plagued with, like, corruption,poverty and hunger etc.
It is indeed sham and cruel triviality , blasphemy ,when well fed women from very elite background sit on a panel and come live on TV vociferously debating in English in their contrived Indian slang on rape and abuse of women.
But we have never heard from the voiceless many among women who silently endure abuse and atrocities. How many of the memsahibs who flourish in these TV programmes would treat their maid at home with respect and dignity that all living beings deserve?
Now the fact is Rape and abuse is a scourge of severe social proportion. So is poverty, hunger, and corruption and score of other evils..
Do you mean that the latter evils are of greater severity than rape? Or is some one there claiming that rape is the most serious and heinous vice?
Alice or Red Ridding Hood , the fact is that as a study states India is ranked 60 among 80 nations in choice of countries to live.
Are we not near DRC and Sub Saharan Africa?
true
DeleteFor a woman honour is more important than hunger,unemployment etc,if you were a woman you would have understood better.
ReplyDeleteComplete nonsense piece. Every minute women are getting raped in this country. Fathers, brothers, sons are raping women in this country in their own homes. Women are not secure in their own homes, where they will be?
ReplyDeleteJaya Bachhan was right when she said mothers, sisters, wives, daughters are being in their houses everyday. She even cried. What more can you think, a woman MP herself is saying this?
Yes, Woman need food, employment etc. But honor is far far more important than any of these things. What will a woman do with food or employment without honour?
Man like you, many men like you, are so insensitive to women's issues that it surprises me. India is full of these men. No wonder, with so many laws such as Dowry, DV Act, CrPc acts on women, women still feel so insecure in their own houses.
Read Sheil Bhatt's article on are men in india even belong to 21st century.
http://www.rediff.com/news/column/are-you-man-enough-to-speak-up-for-women/20130102.htm
Every men should read on it and evaluate themselves. Now solider's issue have come up. Understand that they died and it should be protested. But these women issues are very very serious now. Men and women should act now.
आप ऐसा लिख रहें हैं , क्योंकि मीडिया ने रेप को पिछले एक महीने से मुद्दा बनाया है | मीडिया लिख और दिखा रही है क्योंकि रेप हो रहें हैं |
ReplyDeleteसंचार दृश्य सिद्धांत के Gestalt आधार पर कार्य करता है |
चार बिंदु : : एक वर्ग की आकृति को प्रदर्शित करते हैं, क्योंकि हमने पूर्व में पढ़ा है | चार बिन्दुओं को वर्ग कहने की राय पूर्वाग्रह से ग्रसित है |
जबकि ये चार बिंदु एक क्रास की आकृति को भी प्रदर्शित करते हैं |
संचार पर मनोविज्ञान का गहरा प्रभाव पड़ता है | हम अपनी राय अपनी पूर्वधारणा के आधार पर रखते हैं |
हमारी जनता उन ख़बरों को देखना चाहती है जिस पर वो अपनी राय रख सके | मीडिया और नेतागण भी उसी मुद्दे को उठाते हैं जिन पर वो अपनी राय रख सकें और हम आप भी यही करते हैं |
मुद्दों को थोपा नहीं जा सकता, कोई व्यक्ति किसी घटना पर राय दे इसके लिये विवश नहीं किया जा सकता , जैसे किसी पुस्तक को जबरदस्ती नहीं पढाया जा सकता है |
जो संवाद हो रहा है, वह केवल इस बुराई को समाप्त करने के लिए हो रहा है | और जैसा की जग जाहिर है की लोकतंत्र में बहुमत का क़ानून अल्पमत पर लागु होता है |
आपकी और हमारी चर्चा का विषय यह होना चाहिए की रेप क्यों होता है ? एक पुरुष की मानसिक स्थिति को यहाँ तक लाने वाले कारक क्या हैं ? क्या इन्टरनेट के माध्यम से विदेशों से भारत में पहुँचने वाली पाशविक यौन फ़िल्में जिम्मेदार हैं ? क्या दिल्ली या भारत के हर कोने में ऐसी यौन फिल्मों की सीडी , डीवीडी , धडल्ले से नहीं बिक रहीं हैं (पोलिस की जानकारी में खुले बाजार में) ? क्या आज के समाज में IPC की भूमिका साइबर यौन उत्प्रेरक वेबसाईट जैसे www.antarvasna.com , www.exbii.com, etc पर लागु नहीं होती ? क्या विज्ञापन में अश्लीता अपराध नहीं है, सौन्दर्य प्रसाधन के विज्ञापन आदि? क्या उपरोक्त चीजों पर नियंत्रण कर इन घटनाओं को रोका नहीं जा सकता |
.......................................................................................... www.facebook.com/runjeetchauhan
I read the piece...you have again showed your male chauvinistic sides...
ReplyDeleteIs not the women who work at home all the time? Without them nothing will move.
The Hindu published an article here :
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/taking-the-aggression-out-of-masculinity/article4266007.ece
Simply they put vivekananda and said it is aggresive...such a hysteria over that....just one article and such hoo haa
Every day women are getting gang raped ...what a shame....no one so far talked on it...even the men who came to protest find excuses to grope many...check facebook how women were molested there also...the nation which can not stop it from these stupid men is bound to go down...as correctly said by sagarika ghose indian men are ugly and god would be in a bad mood when he created indian male...100% correct
i think you r not an indian male, if u r, think, that only u can stop this gang rape . How ? find the reason of rape. because nothing happen without any reason.
Deleteonce you find it. tell me................
Kathju sir has commented right about the situation.The media never shows important news like hunger,poverty etc and always comment on rape.
DeleteSir , aur badi class lagani chaiye appko... bahut fight hai yahan samjhana...
ReplyDeleteWell, it might be incongruous to protest against poverty, farmer suicides and child malnutrition while public safety is at stake especially women, in the form of rapes. So when the time comes people will show same determination in the fight against other problems stated by you Sir. So I think you need not take such a parochial approach against those who protested at jantar-Mantar in Delhi.
ReplyDeleteHunger is not OUR issue. We are fighting for OUR issue. What is wrong with it?
ReplyDeleteThe poor of this country know how to fight for their own issues. For 50+ years, we endured the crappy politicians they send with their disastrously populist policies. %*#&)%!#@&*
Justice Katju, I understand that you are talking of whole systemic failure, which needs multifarious approach, Ok Fine, done. But do you also mean that Hood had the bad experience in the 'forest'? Does 'forest' stand as Delhi, India in your article? if yes, I undertand that lawlessness and anarchy is characteristic to jungles, thence you story is justified.
ReplyDeleteCiao!