This is a message I received on fb, and my reply ( I have deleted the name of the sender ):
May 20th, 6:22pm
Sir,
I am a dalit. I understand you are very well aware of our history, social structure and the atrocities society did to my community. My question is : are you against dalit reservation...if so, is there any assurance that this caste prejudiced society will not keep us downtrodden forever saying that they we are not fit enough for job/college admission ?
Markandey Katju
May 20th, 6:29pm
I am against reservations, but believe that dalits and poor people of all castes should be helped financially and given special facilities.
It is true that dalits ( like blacks in America ) have been historically oppressed and humiliated. But now the time has come when they must stop crying about this like babies, and stand up like real men, and prove to the bigoted 'upper castes' and whites that dalits ( and blacks ) are intellectually their equals. For doing this, dalits ( and blacks ) must win Noble Prizes in physics, chemistry and medicine, and similar prizes in mathematics, genetic engineering, and other intellectual fields. And for this they must study and work doubly hard, despite all their handicaps
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KAMI SEKELUARGA MENGUCAPKAN BANYAK TERIMA KASIH ATAS BANTUANNYA MBAH , NOMOR YANG MBAH BERIKAN/ 4D SGP& HK SAYA DAPAT (350) JUTA ALHAMDULILLAH TEMBUS, SELURUH HUTANG2 SAYA SUDAH SAYA LUNAS DAN KAMI BISAH USAHA LAGI. JIKA ANDA INGIN SEPERTI SAYA HUB MBAH_PURO _085_342_734_904_ terima kasih.الالله صلى الله عليه وسلموعليكوتهله صلى الل
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KAMI SEKELUARGA MENGUCAPKAN BANYAK TERIMA KASIH ATAS BANTUANNYA MBAH , NOMOR YANG MBAH BERIKAN/ 4D SGP& HK SAYA DAPAT (350) JUTA ALHAMDULILLAH TEMBUS, SELURUH HUTANG2 SAYA SUDAH SAYA LUNAS DAN KAMI BISAH USAHA LAGI. JIKA ANDA INGIN SEPERTI SAYA HUB MBAH_PURO _085_342_734_904_ terima kasih.الالله صلى الله عليه وسلموعليكوتهله صلى الل
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ReplyDeleteThe very first lines of your reply I think are vague. First you said that you are against reservations. Then you said that financial and special facilities should be given. I’ll ask a clarification from you upon this. Financial help in what manner? Scholarship to students which is already hated and opposed by most upper castes students? Or More remunerations or allowances to Dalit government/private employees than the other employees? And special facilities in what manner? Reservations? Sir logically speaking the financial assistance will not be enough as it will be limited, neither they will be sufficient to buy the seats in schools, colleges which the most upper castes and rich people manage to do by way of so called donations. Sir, the dalit student needs a security of getting admissions which can not be guaranteed by giving financial help. I know the reservation policy these days is mostly abused for political benefits. But who are to be held responsible? The dalits again? so that the security given to them shall be taken off? In last 68 years of independence only one generations of Dalit has got the benefits of reservations and out of that not everyone was able to take the advantage of it. If any one person in hundreds was able to get advantage out of it and raise itself to the level of at least a middle class from poverty, he has to take care of everyone in the family, of all his backward, poor and illiterate relatives. The benefits which are intended to dalits by way of reservations have not reached to them to the limit it was intended because of the too much corruption in the system. Most benefits are filtrated in the middle of the way by the people who are already in the system.
You also said that they must study and work doubly hard, despite all their handicaps. It is like asking a person on a cycle to race with a person driving a Ferrari. I hope, you red Rawls where he says that the race shall be started when two person are standing on the same line. Sir still the Dalits have not reached to the stage where they can go for open competition. If we go by population ratio then 15/100 shall make up to the IITs, IIMs or National Law Schools but the fact is they do not. only 1 or two manage to do so. Sir there are many contingent factors which are responsible for the growth of a man and his brain. The quality of food he gets, the family atmosphere he lives in, the quality of education he gets matters a lot for a person’s overall development. And a dalits or backwards fail on all these grounds per se. in such conditions asking a dalit to compete with a person who has everything in hand is sheer injustice to him. Dalits are certainly no less than intellectuals in uppers castes, but to enhance and nurture their intellectual at least they needs to be give a fair opportunity of getting good education and minimum job not just to elevate their status but the people around them as well.
Few months back you replied to a lower caste girl through your blog for getting married to an uppar caste boy. I also wanted to reply you upon that but by the time I could write, I guess the blog was removed. I also have the similar story to tell you. One of my friends who wanted to marry an uppar caste boyfriend was rejected by her boyfriend’s mother. The (Marathi) so called uppar catse mother who is actually OBC rejected my friend saying that she would have accepted any gujarati, marvari, Panjabi girl but not (Marathi )SC girl. Sir still in our country there is no equality for backward castes. It is like you can seat with us, you can eat with us but you cannot mix your blood with ours. Sir this kind of social stigma, the untouchability has to be removed and for this elevating them even to the status of middle class is not sufficient they have to become Rich, higly intellectuals and popular like most others Guajarati, Marwari or Punjabis so that people start forgetting their castes. your financial assistance can merely satisfy the min basic needs, but they want more. They want an opportunity to be given an admission in good school/college and institution. An opportunity to work. Sir can you guarantee me that the people with mentality of seeing the caste before marrying a particular person, or even in voting in an election, and for some stupids to watch a movie of a particular star would not see a caste of a candidate before giving and admission in educational institution or giving a job? Sir unless the Caste system in our country and the disparity in upper and lower or the minority and majority prevails I’d say that they need to be given not the opportunity but the guarantee of education and employment. And please they are NOT CRYING LIKE BABIES. They are FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS which they were/are deprived of since thousands of years.
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ReplyDeleteDalits in this country are struggling for their basic rights...in metro cities you can possibly able to saw less discrimination but in villages it exists in higher percentage. whereas by looking recent condition of Dalits if you are talking about anti reservation then you are talking about reservation for all upper cast...
ReplyDeleteSC/ST(30%) are NOT stopping Brahmins(4%) from taking their #CasteShareOfLand from India & go build their own nation;
ReplyDeleteDalits/Adivasis (30%) are telling Brahmins (4%) to take their #CasteShareOfLand from India and go build their own "reservation free" nation;
ReplyDeleteAwalnya aku hanya mencoba main togel akibat adanya hutang yang sangat banyak dan akhirnya aku buka internet mencari aki yang bisa membantu orang akhirnya di situ lah ak bisa meliat nmor nya AKI NAWE terus aku berpikir aku harus hubungi AKI NAWE meskipun itu dilarang agama ,apa boleh buat nasip sudah jadi bubur,dan akhirnya aku menemukan seorang aki.ternyata alhamdulillah AKI NAWE bisa membantu saya juga dan aku dapat mengubah hidup yang jauh lebih baik berkat bantuan AKI NAWE dgn waktu yang singkat aku sudah membuktikan namanya keajaiban satu hari bisa merubah hidup ,kita yang penting kita tdk boleh putus hasa dan harus berusaha insya allah kita pasti meliat hasil nya sendiri. siapa tau anda berminat silakan hubungi AKI NAWE Di Nmr 085--->"218--->"379--->''259'
ReplyDeleteAwalnya aku hanya mencoba main togel akibat adanya hutang yang sangat banyak dan akhirnya aku buka internet mencari aki yang bisa membantu orang akhirnya di situ lah ak bisa meliat nmor nya AKI NAWE terus aku berpikir aku harus hubungi AKI NAWE meskipun itu dilarang agama ,apa boleh buat nasip sudah jadi bubur,dan akhirnya aku menemukan seorang aki.ternyata alhamdulillah AKI NAWE bisa membantu saya juga dan aku dapat mengubah hidup yang jauh lebih baik berkat bantuan AKI NAWE dgn waktu yang singkat aku sudah membuktikan namanya keajaiban satu hari bisa merubah hidup ,kita yang penting kita tdk boleh putus hasa dan harus berusaha insya allah kita pasti meliat hasil nya sendiri. siapa tau anda berminat silakan hubungi AKI NAWE Di Nmr 085--->"218--->"379--->''259'
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